Where to for quality Rugby journalism???

[East Coast Aces]

If you ever feel like wasting 5 minutes of your life that you will never get back, read Spiro's and Andrew Slacks articles.

If they are going to use G&GR for article ideas and information why aren't they writing more club rugby articles.

 

[The Red Baron]

Oh I see. We are in a pickle then.

 

[Braveheart81]

A friend who is a journo at Fairfax said the other day on twitter:

Feel like I just attended a mass funeral, a mining disaster one might say. Such a sad day at Fairfax.

Crikey is compiling a list of those leaving.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/

 

[up&under]

rumour is that growden is leaving the smh. that would be a good start to better rugby journalism

 

[Braveheart81]

It's not a rumour.

He's gone at the end of the season.

It's not like he's going to be replaced. There will just be less coverage in general combined with more use of press release type material and AAP news items.

 

[Rob42]

rumour is that growden is leaving the smh. that would be a good start to better rugby journalism

Is @GregGrowden genuine? Because if so, not a rumour any more:

Greg Growden ‏@GregGrowden
@ChrisBarrett_ @SMHsport @mick_cowley @joshrakic thnks chris. yes leaving smh october 12. tahs and wallabies already have party hats on

Only 6 weeks left to find out the identity of Radio...

 

[Braveheart81]

I posted the Crikey article listing all the Fairfax journalists leaving four posts up the page.

Here is the list.
The Sydney Morning Herald / The Sun-Herald

• Peter Fray (editor-in-chief)
• Amanda Wilson (editor)
• Peter Kerr (executive editor — leaving in October)
• David Marr (senior writer)
• Adele Horin (columnist and journalist)
• Malcolm Brown (journalist)
• Judy Prisk (readers’ editor)
• Andrew Stevenson (education editor)
• Jen Rosenberg (education reporter)
• Greg Bearup (Good Weekend feature writer)
• Fenella Souter (Good Weekend feature writer)
• Janet Hawley (Good Weekend feature writer)
• Joel Gibson (opinion editor)
• Cynthia Banham (diplomatic editor)
• Greg Hassall (The Guide editor)
• Doug Anderson (TV reviewer)
• Bruce Elder (popular culture writer)
• Ian Verrender (senior business columnist)
• Scott Rochfort (“CBD” business columnist)
• Elisabeth Sexton (senior business writer)
• Leonie Lamont (business reporter)
• Annette Sampson (personal finance editor)
• Matthew Moore (urban affairs editor)
• Geesche Jacobsen (legal affairs reporter)
• Deborah Smith (science editor)
• Clare Morgan (arts editor)
• Lynne Dwyer (arts journalist)
• Julie Robotham (health editor)
• Mark Metherell (health correspondent)
• Julian Lee (media writer)
• Fiona McGill (News Review editor)
• Debra Jopson (senior writer)
• John Huxley (senior writer)
• David Humphries (senior writer)
• Paola Totaro (former Europe correspondent)
• Helen Greenwood (food reviewer)
• Kelly Burke (journalist)
• Catharine Munro (journalist)
• Robert Wainright (journalist)
• Ellie Harvey (journalist)
• Emily Dunn (journalist)
• Jennifer Cooke (former legal affairs reporter)
• Daniel Dasey (special reports editor)
• Sacha Molitorisz (feature writer)
• Chris Henning (leader writer)
• Josh Rakic (sports journalist)
• Michael Cockerill (sports journalist)
• Michael Cowley (sports journalist)
• Greg Growden (chief rugby correspondent — leaving after football finals)
• Craig Young (racing journalist)
• Nadia Jamal (deputy editor - The Sun Herald )
• David Knox (senior editor - The Sun Herald)
• Mari Gibson (Domain editor - The Sun Herald)
• Jim O’Rourke (journalist - The Sun Herald)
• Terry Smythe (journalist - The Sun Herald)
• Quentin Jones (photographer)
• Jon Reid (photographer)
• Steve Christo (photographer)
• Simon Alekna (photographer)
• Dom Postiglione (photographer)
• Mags King (features photo editor)
• Jessica Irvine (economics writer; moving to News Limited and understood not to have taken redundancy)
• Joshua Dowling (motoring editor; moving to News Limited and understood not to have taken redundancy)

The Age / The Sunday Age

• Paul Ramadge (editor-in-chief)
• Misha Schubert (political editor - The Sunday Age)
• Kirsty Simpson (media editor)
• Lorna Edwards (“Melbourne Life” editor)
• Ray Cassin (senior writer)
• Andrew Cooke (news editor)
• Tom Ormonde (senior subeditor)
• Ian Davidson (subeditor)
• Shaun Carney (associate editor)
• Carolyn Jones (foreign editor)
• Simon Mann (ex-Washington correspondent)
• Mike van Niekerk (weekday editor)
• Paul Millar (police reporter)
• Patrick Smithers (executive news editor)
• Robin Usher (arts writer)
• Tom Hyland (international editor - The Sunday Age)
• Roslyn Guy (associate editor)
• Raymond Gill (senior arts writer)
• Ian Munro (senior writer)
• Gary Munro (senior editor)
• Jo Chandler (senior writer)
• Gary Tippet (senior writer)
• Nicole Brady (senior writer)
• Julie Szego (senior writer)
• Martin Blake (sports writer — will leave after AFL Finals)
• Andrew Eddy (racing writer — will leave after Spring Carnival)
• Farah Farouque (Law and Justice Editor)
• Gerry Carman (senior journalist)
• Philip Hopkins (business writer)
• Ian McIlwraith (business writer)
• Fran Atkinson (Green Guide deputy editor)
• Veronica Ridge (Life & Style editor)
• Andrew Heasley (motor industry reporter)
• Frank Maiorana (artist)
• Judy Green (designer)
• Christina Carter (designer)
• Viki Lascaris (images editor)
• Craig Sillitoe (photographer)
• John Woudstra (photographer)
• Craig Abraham (photographer)
• Rodger Cummins (photographer)
• Mark Ellis (deputy arts editor)
• David Dick (iPad editor; will leave early next year)

The Australian Financial Review

• Roger Johnstone (weekend editor)
• Deirdre Macken (columnist)
• Derry Hogue (foreign editor)
• Marguerite Winter (The Australian Financial Review Magazine deputy editor)
• Barrie Dunstan (columnist)
• Mark Fenton-Jones (special reports editor)
• Michael Fitzjames (illustrator)

The Canberra Times

• Ian Sharpe (cartoonist)
• Diana Streak (arts editor)
• Gillian Lord (features editor)
• Gia Metherell (literary editor)
• Richard Mihaich (chief sub-editor for 16 years, recently chief sub of features)
• Mick Searle (former world editor)
• Rossyln Beeby (environment reporter)

 

[Brumby Jack]

Only 6 weeks left to find out the identity of Radio.

Look south

 

[Hugh Jarse]

A fair plethora of unemployed ex-Fairfax employees.

Would a shorter listing be who's left at Fairfax?

 

[Swat]

Now I feel bad for all the shit I've been hanging on Growden.

 

[Braveheart81]

Now I feel bad for all the shit I've been hanging on Growden.

He's been there a while. I'm sure his redundancy was substantial.

 

[Richo]

He's been there a while. I'm sure his redundancy was substantial.

And he can use it to start his soon to be award-winning blog, The Pie Hunter. In 2014 he will sell it to The Huffington Post for $30 million and live off that thick, crunchy, buttery crust forever.

 

[Richo]

In all seriousness, though, that list at Fairfax is just appalling. I know this is off-topic, but rugby is the least of the casualties. The idea of democracy without a vibrant press is unknown territory. The Oz is in a similar state, propped up by the rest of News. We could be faced with a drastically altered media landscape in this country very, very quickly.

 

[Rob42]

Wow. That list of redundancies at the SMH is worth a thread of its own. A lot of top quality journalism being lost right there.

 

[p.Tah]

Now I feel bad for all the shit I've been hanging on Growden.

Seeing he's built a career on Radio, perhaps that's an option.

 

[daz]

Wow. That list of redundancies at the SMH is worth a thread of its own. A lot of top quality journalism being lost right there.

I think "Australian Media" and "Top quality journalism" is fast becoming an oxy-moron.

We need to act quickly to turn that around, lest we become the kind of nation that thinks "Fox and Friends" and "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" are real news programs.

Shows like ACA, Today/Tonight and gossip columnists such as GG pretending to be "real" journo's are a cancerous blight.

 

[barbarian]

Have just penned a column for the front page about rugby journalism. Check it:

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/the-four-harsh-realities-of-modern-rugby-journalism/

 

[Badger]

Wow. That list of departures from Fairfax is massive. Seems they will be more of an aggregator of material from a variety of sources rather than generating any original content. Another nail in the coffin.

Hope Growden has a big last day and names names. From today's Ruck & Maul, it could be inferred that Radio and Wizard are from NSW.

RUCK AND MAUL - 31 AUGUST 2012 www.smh.com.au
That infamous official known as Radio because of his big mouth has resurfaced. He made a dill of himself last week when in tandem with his mate, the Wizard, was sighted tired and emotional hailing a cab at Circular Quay, telling anyone that Beale and Cooper were going as a package deal to rugby league. The possible departure of Beale will shock one of Radio's few supporters.

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/real-quade-tipped-to-stand-up-to-boks-20120830-253ae.html#ixzz255qNS1S3​

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[kronic]

Some credit to Growden:

I approached various journos in 2010 about then 7s coverage of Wallabies tests. He was the only one that mentioned the fight in the R&M column.

 

[kronic]

Who the hell will cover the game in NSW? Will Robinson get a wider scope along with another journo?

Reassuring to see our Rugby journo down here still in a job.