Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
^^^Alas, the article is behind Rupert's pay wall. I get the gist of it from the headline though.
Where to for quality Rugby journalism???
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Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Pity GR is still using the third tier terminology. Does the SMH describe the different levels of any other sport by tiers?
Didja spot the piece earlier in the week from GeeRob where she had the Brumbies playing on Friday night giving the Tahs 24 hours' notice of what result's required? Check here: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/w...ash-with-queensland-reds-20150609-ghk16d.html That's simply sloppy journalism and/or incompetent fact-checking by the sub-editors. Spiro's starting to make a lot of similar minor mistakes in his dotage.
"third-tier competition", to be fair to GR that's a term we all use in the context of the rugby vernacular. "National Rugby Championship" was written earlier in the article, it's good writing not to use the same words more than once in the whole piece.
"third-tier competition", to be fair to GR that's a term we all use in the context of the rugby vernacular. "National Rugby Championship" was written earlier in the article, it's good writing not to use the same words more than once in the whole piece.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
But the SMH don't refer to any other level of any other sport as 1st, 2nd, 3rd tier - so why with rugby?
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
The title of the thread is "Where to for quality rugby journalism?" so some of you may think that this next note is not in the right place.
Steve Samuelson announced this week in The Breakdown SMH video show that this will be his last show. Don't know if GeeRob will replace him or what is happening. He was a nice enough bloke but his rugby depth was wafer thin and I didn't learn much from watching even after Grumbles was pitch-forked out.
The show itself is cringeworthy amateur so maybe SMH are just going to can it.
Steve Samuelson announced this week in The Breakdown SMH video show that this will be his last show. Don't know if GeeRob will replace him or what is happening. He was a nice enough bloke but his rugby depth was wafer thin and I didn't learn much from watching even after Grumbles was pitch-forked out.
The show itself is cringeworthy amateur so maybe SMH are just going to can it.
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After seeing GeeRob on Rugby HQ, I suspect my rugby knowledge is greater than hers, and that is not saying much.
She is just a tabloid journo, and should stick to the human interest/mud-slinging-with-immunity stuff.
Having said that, she is still better than Grumbles.
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Bob Loudon (25)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/b...s/news-story/8a13025635d002112ec1c9395a518e9d
Such bullshit - when Hansen says that the Wallabies are "kidding themselves", it's in response to the notion that they are not respecting them and expect nothing form them etc. This "War of Words" is hardly that.
It's just like when one of the Aussie players says something like, "Yeah we really are feeling good at training and our systems are coming together" which is then translated into, "Wallabies Confident in Destroying the All Blacks - Every Single Player Intends to Dance on the Grave of Their Opposite Number."
I know they have to sell papers/eyeballs and all that....
Such bullshit - when Hansen says that the Wallabies are "kidding themselves", it's in response to the notion that they are not respecting them and expect nothing form them etc. This "War of Words" is hardly that.
It's just like when one of the Aussie players says something like, "Yeah we really are feeling good at training and our systems are coming together" which is then translated into, "Wallabies Confident in Destroying the All Blacks - Every Single Player Intends to Dance on the Grave of Their Opposite Number."
I know they have to sell papers/eyeballs and all that....
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Chilla Wilson (44)
I feel like there is nothing wrong with GeeRob filling the need she does (super basic, paint-by-numbers rugby journalism). As long as there's two sides to the coin and someone writes insightful pieces.
Aside from Paul Cully (whose role is clearly to write opinion pieces in most instances), most of the rugby journalists don't really try and write anything with particularly deep analysis or insight. It just isn't part of their remit.
I think GeeRob gets cited as being light on her rugby knowledge because she is a woman. I think she holds her own quite comfortably with the other mainstream media rugby journalists.
I think GeeRob gets cited as being light on her rugby knowledge because she is a woman. I think she holds her own quite comfortably with the other mainstream media rugby journalists.
I like to watch
David Codey (61)
IMO she one one of the better journos covering the game.
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
Difference between AFL journalism and rugby. Andrée Agassi attends a packed AFL final. Is bored shitless and is seen yawning yet the AFL give it a positive spin.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gil...y/news-story/753cbffcb056f15071c1e490a8eb04e5
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gil...y/news-story/753cbffcb056f15071c1e490a8eb04e5
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
Why is Buzz writing about Union? It's a misinformed dig at Rugby, but surely there is something League related he could write about, like say the RL Would cup which is currently on.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/53b8842fdb767f2cf574811aa8633f25
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/53b8842fdb767f2cf574811aa8633f25
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Ted Thorn (20)
SPOTTED: Part-time Wallabies superstar Israel Folau in the birdcage at Flemington on Saturday afternoon with his fiancee Maria Tutaia. Both looking a million dollars while rubbing shoulders with celebrities and racing’s elite. They were all there — Jennifer Hawkins, Karl Stefanovic with his new missus, Usain Bolt, Ian Thorpe, Gary Ablett, Melissa George, Kate Waterhouse and TV stars. A lifetime of ‘Spotteds’. French champagne, cocktails, premium wine and boutique beer to wash down the free-range chicken, canapés, lobster, prawns, smoked salmon and Tasmanian cheeses. Meanwhile the Wallabies are in Japan on their way to Europe for the Spring tour. Yet Folau gets a leave pass despite the fact he’s far and away the highest paid player in the game. BUZZ II: Highlights and Lowlights Maria Tutaia and Israel Folau pose at The Park on AAMI Victoria Derby Day at Flemington Racecourse. It says a lot about Australian rugby and why the game is in such a poor state. Could you imagine Folau’s equivalent in Australian cricket, champion opening batsman Dave Warner, asking for three months off and giving up his baggy green for an overseas tour. Could you imagine Cameron Smith not wanting to wear the green and gold in one Test match, let alone half a dozen. Or having a three-month license to go and play UK Super League while the Kangaroos were involved in Test matches. This wouldn’t happen in any other sport. Even our tennis brats normally turn up to play Davis Cup for Australia. Most of the time anyway. The Wallabies are preparing for a World Cup next year. It’s less than two years away. Spring tours are all about building camaraderie, team work and hopefully a winning culture. It’s about respect for the jersey. Michael Hooper charges upfield during the rugby union international between Japan and Wallabies on Saturday. Yet Folau has the most flexible and most lucrative contract ever offered to an Australian player. He gets time off, not just to rest his body, but to play overseas and make hundreds of thousands of dollars more, if he wishes to. Meanwhile his team mates continue the hard slog of training, living out of a suitcase and playing Test matches. They, like most Australian workers, will get their six-week break over Christmas. The problem comes back to the diminishing value of rugby union internationals. These days the Wallabies play 15 Test matches a year. Outside of the Bledisloe Cup, they’ve become the equivalent value of cricket one-day internationals. Do we care Australia beat Japan 63-30 in Yokohama on Saturday? Will we care this time next year about the result against Scotland or Wales over the next few weeks? In the defence of Australian rugby, administrators had to come up with a salary and lifestyle package to keep Folau in the sport. A package that allowed him to earn more cash overseas at the completion of our domestic internationals. Or to take an extended holiday. Otherwise he’d have gone back to rugby league. Still, that’s not the point. This is about having different rules for different players in a team sport. He’s not a boxer, a tennis player or a golfer. He’s a Wallaby. And he should have been in Japan, not at Flemington
Buzz, in case you haven't noticed rugby starts in January every year with trials and finishes in November with the NRC finals and EoYT. Add to that the travel to and from South Africa and/or Argentina a coupla times a year plus numerous trips across the Tasman just to tire players out. Giving the senior players a sabbatical in their senior years, or after six or seven years of this punishing schedule, makes a lot of sense. How many first-choice Kangaroos have missed tours in the recent past? How many top players have withdrawn from representative league towards the end of their careers. Or is it one rule for the goose and another for the gander?
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Michael Lynagh (62)
just moving W.O's take on Gregor Paul (NZ Herald) over here
my taek on the other NZ nimrods:
Marc Hinton: 3/10. completely odorless, colourless and fancy free. Could be replaced by an associated press automaton and you'd never even notice the fucking difference. Writes like a 3rd former who's just spent all afternoon sitting in the sun.
Richard Knowler: 1/10. see above but add in liberal lashings of Cantab cock gargling
Wynne Gray 0/10. Old Wynney gave up years ago. Lucky to get zero out of 10. Look up the expression "mailing it in" and oops, hello, there's Wynne. Good old Wynne.
"Yeah, this 3 sentence 20-word paragraph should fulfil my contractual obligation for an annual story, off it goes, oh yeah, ching ching motherfuckers."
Gregor Paul 8/10. quite like Paul, although clearly after reading W.O's piece I wasn't really paying close enough attention. At least he gets into it and gets wound up about shit, can put the boot in quite eloquently to the fuckhead Blues franchise too
Scott Stevenson 8/10. best. NZ media's sole saving grace. Although he scares me a bit to look at since his eyes look like a stoned Captain from Captain and Tennille.
Hamish Bidwell 2/10 has to be half trolling and/or an alcoholic. A national embarrassment.
Patrick McCendry 2/10 as boring as he is unremarkable as he is unexceptional as he is shit.
Mark Reason: 5/10. yeah a pom who's trolling NZ rugby hard, but, again, at least its fun to read at times
Chris Rattue 6/10 The hated. Although weirdly, when I really think about it, I don't mind him. He7s obviously having a troll half the time but at least he lays it all out there, no holds barred, unlike his industry-insider carob cohort.
Phil Gifford 6/10. still good value with his zillion anecdotes but the whole dumping Auckland rugby fanaticism in the dark of night and remerging the very next day as a diehard Cantab... sorry but that just half whips the rug out from under everything he writes
Liam Napier: 3/10. see: Marc Hinton. Interchangeable, amorphis, vapid, vapour, blank, blackout, vacant.