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Western Force 2015

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farva

Vay Wilson (31)
Good news! He is a great player to have around and has been on fire. When is he due back from injury?
 

Shiggins

Simon Poidevin (60)
After the test window apparently. He was probably the best halfback in Aus when he got injured. Shame he is an ex all black. Lol
 

farva

Vay Wilson (31)
So Longbum is off. Does that mean Hoskins, Manu or Faulkner take over? Or someone else?

Manu will fighting to get his contract renewed. Hoskins is on track to be an excellent prop but is still a year or two away (prove me wrong!). Faulkner seems good value and would be my pick with Hoskins on the bench.

That will mean we are a touch light on for loose heads. Who is there locally?
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
So Longbum is off. Does that mean Hoskins, Manu or Faulkner take over? Or someone else?

Manu will fighting to get his contract renewed. Hoskins is on track to be an excellent prop but is still a year or two away (prove me wrong!). Faulkner seems good value and would be my pick with Hoskins on the bench.

That will mean we are a touch light on for loose heads. Who is there locally?
Joe savage?
 

Forcefield

Ken Catchpole (46)
We haven't seen anything of the two South African props we brought over. Good decisions were made on Brache and Stander so I wonder how those two would go. I don't think Hoskins would be ready to start next year but he would definitely be earning more time off the bench.
 

Mr Pilfer

Dave Cowper (27)
We haven't seen anything of the two South African props we brought over. Good decisions were made on Brache and Stander so I wonder how those two would go. I don't think Hoskins would be ready to start next year but he would definitely be earning more time off the bench.

Wasn't Van Wyk on the bench last week? I don't think he got on though.
 

Bairdy

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Force look to shore up squad for the future

Nick Taylor The West Australian June 2, 2014, 6:51 am
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The Western Force have three weeks to ponder the immediate challenge of a maiden Super Rugby finals berth, but it is also an important period as they look to the future.

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The Force had 12 players out of contract at the end of the season, but have signed or reached agreement with about half of them.

They are poised to announce back-rower Angus Cottrell, who will see a specialist in Brisbane today after breaking his left leg in Friday's 30-7 thumping from the Crusaders, and winger Dane Haylett-Petty have renewed their deals.

High on the retention list are foundation prop Pek Cowan, fly-half Sias Ebersohn and full-back Jayden Hayward.

Coach Michael Foley will need a replacement for back-rower Hugh McMeniman, who is returning to Japan.

Out-of-contract Queensland flankers Jake Schatz and Ed Quirk have shown interest in heading to WA, but Foley may look overseas.

Two other Reds, flier Rod Davies and back line "Mr Fix-it" Ben Lucas, are also said to be interested in a move west.

See more: https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/s.../force-look-to-shore-up-squad-for-the-future/
Interesting. Hope Foley considers promising West Australians and Saffers as well
 

farva

Vay Wilson (31)
Ben Lucas would be a great pick up. Not sold on Davies.
Schatz or Quirk would be good value as well, but would prefer a taller backrower capable of playing lock.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I don't see Quirk or Schatz being anything better than bench options for a full strength Force side next year.

Cottrell and McCalman are well ahead of them on 2014 form.
 

Boomer

Alfred Walker (16)
I don't see Quirk or Schatz being anything better than bench options for a full strength Force side next year.

Cottrell and McCalman are well ahead of them on 2014 form.


And on 2013 form.

Unfortunately both blokes are a smidge too small.
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
I was thinking about it after reading that article whilst both are good players I would rather they stay in qld and we look at developing the players we have. Stander and the you Ross Haylet Petty look the goods.

In the back whilst Davies is quick I would rather again persist with Morahan cummins and DHP.

Lucas could be a good pick up but that would be only if we lost Ebersohn.

Really the only reds player I would be keen on would be taps to play 13 but I would rather us pick up Horne.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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And on 2013 form.

Unfortunately both blokes are a smidge too small.

I disagree.

Schatz would have been a Wallaby in 2013 without injury and Quirk was in excellent form early in the season. They were both substantially higher in the pecking order in 2013 than in 2014.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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These rumours of four Reds players deserting a sinking ship, where're they coming from?
 
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Moono75

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Don't think any of the guys mentioned above would add anything spectacular to the Force. Maybe they would benefit from better coaching under Foley though.

I don't think the Force can just hold their current cards for 2015. Yes we have had a very good season this year but if we want to be serious contenders we need to add some additional quality players for next year.
 

Boomer

Alfred Walker (16)
I disagree.

Schatz would have been a Wallaby in 2013 without injury and Quirk was in excellent form early in the season. They were both substantially higher in the pecking order in 2013 than in 2014.


McCalman was in sparkling form last year and won 8 (I think) caps.

Cottrell has been a quiet achiever. A comparison of the stats would be interesting.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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McCalman was in sparkling form last year and won 8 (I think) caps.

Cottrell has been a quiet achiever. A comparison of the stats would be interesting.

Yes, but McKenzie was about to pick Schatz to play in the Rugby Championship ahead of McCalman until Schatz was injured.

I agree McCalman was good last year (although much better this year), but the point I was trying to make was that Quirk and Schatz have moved down the pecking order substantially this year compared to last year.
 

Caputo

Ted Thorn (20)
The Aus Under 20 run showed some good depth for the Force with RHP as a short term replacement for Cotterell and depending when he returns from injury. Others to impress Hooker - Scoble and Winger - Lacey
 
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