Western Force 2010
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John Eales (66)
WESTERN FORCE SQUAD 2010
Player Position HeightWeight DOBAge* Last Year
Pek Cowan LH Prop 185cm 116kg 2 Jan 86 23 2011
Nick Henderson LH Prop 185cm 117kg 1 May 81 28 2011
Kieran Longbottom LH Prop 181cm 113kg 20 Dec 85 24 2010
Matt Dunning TH Prop 182cm 115kg 19 Dec 78 31 2011
Tim Fairbrother TH Prop 183cm 119kg 12 Mar 82 27 2011
Ben Whittaker Hooker 189cm 113kg 10 Oct 89 20 2011
Ryan Tyrrell Hooker 183cm 114kg 9 Nov 83 26
Nathan Sharpe Lock 200cm 113kg 26 Feb 78 31 2011
Tom Hockings Lock 199cm 112kg 22 Feb 86 23 2011
Luke Jones [R] Lock 6/8 200cm 108kg 2 Apr 91 18 2010
Sam Wykes 6/Lock 197cm 109kg 25 Apr 88 21 2011
Richard Stanford 6/Lock 198cm 110kg 25 Apr 86 23 2011
David Pocock Flanker 7 183cm 103kg 23 Apr 88 21 2010
Matt Hodgson Flanker 6 184cm 100kg 25 Jun 81 28 2011
Richard Brown No.8 189cm 103kg 28 Aug 84 25 2011
Ben McCalman [R?] Backrow 192cm 108kg 18 Mar 88 21 2011
Brett Sheehan Scrumhalf 179cm 90kg 16 Sep 79 30 2011
Chris O'Young Scrumhalf 179cm 82kg 3 Mar 81 28 2010
Werner Swanepoel [R] Scrumhalf 180cm 92kg 26 Oct 90 19 2011
André Pretorius Flyhalf 176cm 91kg 29 Dec 78 31 2010
Sam Harris Flyhalf/12 190cm 103kg 30 Jan 80 29 2010
Stephano Hunt [R] 12/Flyhalf 182cm 86kg 11 Aug 91 18 2010
Josh Tatupu Centre 12 184cm 104kg 6 Nov 86 23 2010
Mitch Inman [R?] Centre 12/13 191cm 102kg 24 Oct 88 21 2011
Ryan Cross Centre 13/Wing 191cm 100kg 6 Oct 79 30 2011
James O'Connor Centre/Fullback 180cm 84kg 5 Jul 90 19 2011
Haig Sare Centre 13/Wing 183cm 90kg 25 Mar 82 27 2011
Mark Bartholomeusz Utility Back 177cm 87kg 30 Jun 77 32 2011
Nick Cummins Wing 189cm 98kg 5 Oct 87 22 2011
Dane Haylett-Petty Fullback/Wing 189cm 95kg 18 Jun 89 20 2010
Cameron Shepherd Fullback 189cm 104kg 30 Mar 84 25 2010
PROFESSIONAL ACADEMY 2010
Player Position Height Weight DOBAge*
Siosefu Manu No 8/6 190cm 103kg 12 Oct 85 24
Justin Turner Scrumhalf 180cm 82kg 12 Mar 90 19
Joeline Papana Centre/Wing 186cm 97kg 23 Apr 86 23
Notes
Age* is at 1 Jan 2010
[R] = Rookie
[R?] = Probably given a rookie contract, but has not been mentioned
According to Force supporters Tyrrell has a full contract, but the “Last Year” date is unknown.
Also please advise about the boo-boos you have spotted and I will change them.
Player Position HeightWeight DOBAge* Last Year
Pek Cowan LH Prop 185cm 116kg 2 Jan 86 23 2011
Nick Henderson LH Prop 185cm 117kg 1 May 81 28 2011
Kieran Longbottom LH Prop 181cm 113kg 20 Dec 85 24 2010
Matt Dunning TH Prop 182cm 115kg 19 Dec 78 31 2011
Tim Fairbrother TH Prop 183cm 119kg 12 Mar 82 27 2011
Ben Whittaker Hooker 189cm 113kg 10 Oct 89 20 2011
Ryan Tyrrell Hooker 183cm 114kg 9 Nov 83 26
Nathan Sharpe Lock 200cm 113kg 26 Feb 78 31 2011
Tom Hockings Lock 199cm 112kg 22 Feb 86 23 2011
Luke Jones [R] Lock 6/8 200cm 108kg 2 Apr 91 18 2010
Sam Wykes 6/Lock 197cm 109kg 25 Apr 88 21 2011
Richard Stanford 6/Lock 198cm 110kg 25 Apr 86 23 2011
David Pocock Flanker 7 183cm 103kg 23 Apr 88 21 2010
Matt Hodgson Flanker 6 184cm 100kg 25 Jun 81 28 2011
Richard Brown No.8 189cm 103kg 28 Aug 84 25 2011
Ben McCalman [R?] Backrow 192cm 108kg 18 Mar 88 21 2011
Brett Sheehan Scrumhalf 179cm 90kg 16 Sep 79 30 2011
Chris O'Young Scrumhalf 179cm 82kg 3 Mar 81 28 2010
Werner Swanepoel [R] Scrumhalf 180cm 92kg 26 Oct 90 19 2011
André Pretorius Flyhalf 176cm 91kg 29 Dec 78 31 2010
Sam Harris Flyhalf/12 190cm 103kg 30 Jan 80 29 2010
Stephano Hunt [R] 12/Flyhalf 182cm 86kg 11 Aug 91 18 2010
Josh Tatupu Centre 12 184cm 104kg 6 Nov 86 23 2010
Mitch Inman [R?] Centre 12/13 191cm 102kg 24 Oct 88 21 2011
Ryan Cross Centre 13/Wing 191cm 100kg 6 Oct 79 30 2011
James O'Connor Centre/Fullback 180cm 84kg 5 Jul 90 19 2011
Haig Sare Centre 13/Wing 183cm 90kg 25 Mar 82 27 2011
Mark Bartholomeusz Utility Back 177cm 87kg 30 Jun 77 32 2011
Nick Cummins Wing 189cm 98kg 5 Oct 87 22 2011
Dane Haylett-Petty Fullback/Wing 189cm 95kg 18 Jun 89 20 2010
Cameron Shepherd Fullback 189cm 104kg 30 Mar 84 25 2010
PROFESSIONAL ACADEMY 2010
Player Position Height Weight DOBAge*
Siosefu Manu No 8/6 190cm 103kg 12 Oct 85 24
Justin Turner Scrumhalf 180cm 82kg 12 Mar 90 19
Joeline Papana Centre/Wing 186cm 97kg 23 Apr 86 23
Notes
Age* is at 1 Jan 2010
[R] = Rookie
[R?] = Probably given a rookie contract, but has not been mentioned
According to Force supporters Tyrrell has a full contract, but the “Last Year” date is unknown.
Also please advise about the boo-boos you have spotted and I will change them.
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brokendown gunfighter
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Lee Grant said:
D.eadset,the mods aren't precious over here
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
Lee Grant said:
be careful lee, both moses and myself are banned for life for making puns about pococks name over there.
dont get on the wrong side of a guy like burgs, he reads press releases from his loungeroom then goes about running rugby worldwide!
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TOCC
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Well the site is quite obviously a Force site, and the posters there do admit that its probably going to be Force bias, at least they are upfront about where they stand.
This site is quite humerous actually, you can strike a nerver here occasionally as well, some Waratah supporters have a chip on there shoulder. Quick to label other people bias but choose to see right past there own blatant one sided opinion.
This site is quite humerous actually, you can strike a nerver here occasionally as well, some Waratah supporters have a chip on there shoulder. Quick to label other people bias but choose to see right past there own blatant one sided opinion.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
TOCC said:
well said tocc, i hate those guys!
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
If anything, we have logs.
We Tahs people tease a bit but any true rugby fan from here wants all the best players in Oz running around the park in Super rugby. and since we provide over 60% of the players, probably closer to ?rds, it's inevitable that we are going to lose some good players who played all, or most, of their club rugby here before leaving. We'd just prefer that we didn't lose the goodies.
We used a have a large chip on our shoulders early in the pro era because the Brumbies, via that astute Rat, Rod Macqueen, picked up players that were overlooked by the Tahs. We questioned the competence of the Tahs people dishing out the Tahs contracts, and conveniently overlooked the fact that a lot of players blossomed when exposed to pro rugby and the likes of Macqueen nurturing them. We also ignored non-rugby reasons about why players wanted to leave Sydney and that, in particular, young players wanted to experience another part of Australia.
That is still happening with 4 Super teams in the mix and will prevail when we have 5 teams.
It would be interesting for somebody to start up another thread listing two teams of players who started their club rugby in Sydney and are currently:
(a) Playing for other S14 franchises
(b) Playing overseas.
I'm too lazy to do it.
We Tahs people tease a bit but any true rugby fan from here wants all the best players in Oz running around the park in Super rugby. and since we provide over 60% of the players, probably closer to ?rds, it's inevitable that we are going to lose some good players who played all, or most, of their club rugby here before leaving. We'd just prefer that we didn't lose the goodies.
We used a have a large chip on our shoulders early in the pro era because the Brumbies, via that astute Rat, Rod Macqueen, picked up players that were overlooked by the Tahs. We questioned the competence of the Tahs people dishing out the Tahs contracts, and conveniently overlooked the fact that a lot of players blossomed when exposed to pro rugby and the likes of Macqueen nurturing them. We also ignored non-rugby reasons about why players wanted to leave Sydney and that, in particular, young players wanted to experience another part of Australia.
That is still happening with 4 Super teams in the mix and will prevail when we have 5 teams.
It would be interesting for somebody to start up another thread listing two teams of players who started their club rugby in Sydney and are currently:
(a) Playing for other S14 franchises
(b) Playing overseas.
I'm too lazy to do it.
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Mole
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gday forum,
finally have got sometime to myself and just had a look through all the super 14 top squads,
each franchise seems to have a top squad of 31-32 players.
I can account of 60 players who have definately cut their teeth in club rugby in sydney. However i believe i would have most likely missed some.
Pretty sure on a previous thread someone has put together a comprehensive list of oz players applying their craft o/s. I will try to track it down and work out how many have come from sydney club rugby ranks.
finally have got sometime to myself and just had a look through all the super 14 top squads,
each franchise seems to have a top squad of 31-32 players.
I can account of 60 players who have definately cut their teeth in club rugby in sydney. However i believe i would have most likely missed some.
Pretty sure on a previous thread someone has put together a comprehensive list of oz players applying their craft o/s. I will try to track it down and work out how many have come from sydney club rugby ranks.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
I too have lurked quietly over at TWF. Bit bemused by it sometimes, they tend to over rate a few of the Force players (in my opinion). There's a lot of love for Cowan over there, for mine he'd be fighting it out for a bench spot with Henderson (at best) if he remains at prop. I agree with NTA that his, and the Force's, best bet may be to try him at hooker.
Any idea what happened to Luke Holmes? Let go? And who is the replacement hooker Tyrell?
What I've seen (and heard) of Whittaker is that he has the potential, but is not there yet. Starting him next year may be a real risk for the Force. It's telling that Whittaker was usually the third string hooker in the U20s side behind Fitzpatrick and Nathan Charles (Brumbies Academy still?).
The big issue with that Force squad posted by Lee is depth. Handy first choice team (and that tight five posted by NTA looks very competent for the S14). But if a few of the first choice players get hurt (and let's face it, both them and the Reds have had huge injury problems in the last 3 years), then their replacements are either a big step down or a big unkown, or likely both.
Any idea what happened to Luke Holmes? Let go? And who is the replacement hooker Tyrell?
What I've seen (and heard) of Whittaker is that he has the potential, but is not there yet. Starting him next year may be a real risk for the Force. It's telling that Whittaker was usually the third string hooker in the U20s side behind Fitzpatrick and Nathan Charles (Brumbies Academy still?).
The big issue with that Force squad posted by Lee is depth. Handy first choice team (and that tight five posted by NTA looks very competent for the S14). But if a few of the first choice players get hurt (and let's face it, both them and the Reds have had huge injury problems in the last 3 years), then their replacements are either a big step down or a big unkown, or likely both.
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Spook
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Lee Grant said:
Lee, that might have to go into a signature somewhere.
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
WPRU find a sponsor for the warmup matches between the Force/Stormers and Sharks around the corner on Newlands. Think that is pretty good stuff and just shows that rugby still is king in Stormers territory.
Stormers site
Stormers site
Just may get to Newlands and watch some of this matches.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
The Force are trying to sign the 23 year old Kiwi North Harbour hooker as their developmental player. Interesting choice, as those at TWF think that Tyrell would start and he'd only be fighting for a bench spot with Whittaker. The ARU are apparently a bit reluctant to allow him as the developmental player. Harsh for the Force, but understandable if he's 23 and barely ride the pine anyway.
I think he should be allowed on a one year contract.
I think he should be allowed on a one year contract.
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