Week 7: Blues @ Rebels

[Brumby Runner]

Hell it's not end of world anyway mate, I don't really lose sleep when things like that happen, I just figure I must of stuffed something up.

Dan, try referring to Barrett as BfB. I'm sure we'll all understand who you mean.

 

[Dan54]

Dan, try referring to Barrett as BfB. I'm sure we'll all understand who you mean.

Yep or I could just stop being a lazy bugger and just type Barrett!!!

 

[Rebel man]

12 of those 40 points were with 13 men on the field.

Then not having a lineout lead to the opposition having almost 70 percent territory because they couldn’t relieve pressure if they were awarded a penalty. The main line out option also went so the ability to put the opposition line out under pressure went. So that’s both the scrum and lineout essentially becoming uncontested for 1 team and not the other.

This leads to your 9-10-12 essentially having 1 option in attack, which allows the opposition to flatten their defensive line allowing for greater line speed.

I can teach you about the fatigue caused from clearing aspects of your forward rotation in the first half and the disadvantages of holding 3 props in your defensive line, especially in the second half when fatigue kicks in but not sure if some people really want to understand the 1 percenters that define the game. Because they see this as an opportunity to stick the knife in for some strange reason.

Look the reality is the Rebels weren’t really destined to win the game, you’d be a silly man for betting on them even when marginally up at half time. But it’s either ignorance on how the games played or a blind dislike for a team to truly believe at least half those 40 points couldn’t be attributed to the circumstances that conspired. If the reverse had happened and it was the Blues, the Rebels might not have run away with it like the Blues did (that’s just a gulf in class) but the Rebels would of also comfortably won.

Exactly

 

[Dismal Pillock]

If the reverse had happened and it was the Blues, the Rebels might not have run away with it like the Blues did (that’s just a gulf in class) but the Rebels would of also comfortably won.

 

[Rebel man]

Anyone have any idea what the numbers were like on FTA? Considering the Storm only got 16k viewers in Melbourne on Thursday night

 

[Rebel man]

Lol no way you would have won if the shoe was on the other foot

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Lol no way you would have won if the shoe was on the other foot

 

[Tomthumb]

12 of those 40 points were with 13 men on the field.

Then not having a lineout lead to the opposition having almost 70 percent territory because they couldn’t relieve pressure if they were awarded a penalty. The main line out option also went so the ability to put the opposition line out under pressure went. So that’s both the scrum and lineout essentially becoming uncontested for 1 team and not the other.

This leads to your 9-10-12 essentially having 1 option in attack, which allows the opposition to flatten their defensive line allowing for greater line speed.

I can teach you about the fatigue caused from clearing aspects of your forward rotation in the first half and the disadvantages of holding 3 props in your defensive line, especially in the second half when fatigue kicks in but not sure if some people really want to understand the 1 percenters that define the game. Because they see this as an opportunity to stick the knife in for some strange reason.

Look the reality is the Rebels weren’t really destined to win the game, you’d be a silly man for betting on them even when marginally up at half time. But it’s either ignorance on how the games played or a blind dislike for a team to truly believe at least half those 40 points couldn’t be attributed to the circumstances that conspired. If the reverse had happened and it was the Blues, the Rebels might not have run away with it like the Blues did (that’s just a gulf in class) but the Rebels would of also comfortably won.

2nd half territory was 55 to 45. Rebels missing 24 tackles and conceding 18 turnovers might have had something to do with it

But sure, teach me about fatigue. These are professional athletes, but playing 80 minutes oh no that’s a bridge too far

 

[Drew]

It’s getting a bit chicken and egg here. Were the missed tackles, etc due to the upheavals to the pack/set piece? Players not able to adapt to changed roles? Fatigue? Effort? All of the above?
I will agree that a prop should be able to survive playing 80 minutes as a professional athlete.

 

[Rebel man]

2nd half territory was 55 to 45. Rebels missing 24 tackles and conceding 18 turnovers might have had something to do with it

But sure, teach me about fatigue. These are professional athletes, but playing 80 minutes oh no that’s a bridge too far

Take two hookers a two props and a lock out of any team and they aren’t going to win.

Any time they were exiting they could kick it out knowing with Mafi and Uelese out they could win the ball back.

There are so many people here with an agenda

 

[Rebel man]

It’s getting a bit chicken and egg here. Were the missed tackles, etc due to the upheavals to the pack/set piece? Players not able to adapt to changed roles? Fatigue? Effort? All of the above?
I will agree that a prop should be able to survive playing 80 minutes as a professional athlete.

They should but then you also expect someone who has come on to play the last 20 to be fresher and perform to a higher standard

 

[Drew]

They should but then you also expect someone who has come on to play the last 20 to be fresher and perform to a higher standard

Yes you do expect that. Unfortunately injuries dictated your reserve front row was utilized earlier and in unfamiliar positions. So your starting front row needed to play longer minutes. Personally, as a non supporter, I’m more in the party of these changes affected your cohesion in the second half. Strategy on the fly with a patchwork team is hard enough without having to do it against a team like the Blues. With that, I’ll still say a prop having to play 80 minutes shouldn’t be an excuse. A prop, playing at hooker and throwing in at lineout or a prop packing in wherever Gibbon was is an excuse.

 

[Tomthumb]

It’s getting a bit chicken and egg here. Were the missed tackles, etc due to the upheavals to the pack/set piece? Players not able to adapt to changed roles? Fatigue? Effort? All of the above?
I will agree that a prop should be able to survive playing 80 minutes as a professional athlete.

If they hadn't been leaking points every other game I'd agree with this. Fact is they have conceded 270 points so far this season. Pretending that isn't a problem wont help matters

 

[Tomthumb]

Take two hookers a two props and a lock out of any team and they aren’t going to win.

Any time they were exiting they could kick it out knowing with Mafi and Uelese out they could win the ball back.

There are so many people here with an agenda

Agenda? Haha what agenda?

 

[Dismal Pillock]

oh I've got an agenda alright.....

 

[Rebel man]

Agenda? Haha what agenda?

Every time the Rebels lose there are always trolls like yourself that always have an axe to grind. Unable to form a balanced opinion on the game because you are blinded by biases

 

[Rebel man]

If they hadn't been leaking points every other game I'd agree with this. Fact is they have conceded 270 points so far this season. Pretending that isn't a problem wont help matters

Yet they have scored the 4th most points.

The amount of points you concede isn’t that relevant. The Tahs have conceded 90 less points yet only won a single game and they can count themselves fortunate to win that because if they played the Drua away in Fiji it’s a completely different story

 

[Drew]

If they hadn't been leaking points every other game I'd agree with this. Fact is they have conceded 270 points so far this season. Pretending that isn't a problem wont help matters

Since this is the game thread of their game against the Blues, I was talking about this one instance. As I’m not a Rebels supporter I don’t watch them religiously. What happens in games I haven’t watched I can’t comment on

 

[Tex]

I feel after 10 years of this sort of shit I'm fairly immune to despondency, but I'm still glad I got on the piss for Saturday night. Onwards and sideways I guess!

 

[Wallaby Man]

I feel after 10 years of this sort of shit I'm fairly immune to despondency, but I'm still glad I got on the piss for Saturday night. Onwards and sideways I guess!

True Rebels form is backwards and sideways