I like all those players but the Tahs need to push some of these guys out of the best 23 if we want to become a decent team.
Good players need to miss out, not just passable players making the 23 and even the starting XV.
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I like all those players but the Tahs need to push some of these guys out of the best 23 if we want to become a decent team.
Good players need to miss out, not just passable players making the 23 and even the starting XV.
Froggy
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) isn't just a weak defender, he is a complete non-tackler. As he stands, I don't want him in the squad, let alone run-on. I recognise his other qualities, and would welcome him back if he learns to tackle. We have seen this year how important defence is, and specifically what a liability poor defence is. There is no room in a side (at any level really) for someone who won't have a crack in defence.
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
Except quade got 70 test caps and Mark will get 0.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
He is only 20 years old and a highly talented player, I'm not about to write him off just yet
His defence, his link play, his ability to hold the ball in the tackle, his ability to beat a defender
You’ve clearly got some grudge against him that surely must be more than just missed tackles. Did it cost you some dollars on Sportsbet? Your statement is completely ignorant. He is a wonderfully skilled player. Has shown it in the 7s. Even made some good one on one tackles. His big shortcoming in 7s so far is his decision making - he tends to try to do it all himself rather than reset and set up team mates. That’s normal for 15s players.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
I really dislike ‘fan’ attitudes like this
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
Cockbain has finished with the tahs. Wonder how many others leave or are booted.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Part of his poor defence has been also poor decision making and marking up in defence. I thought he was ok in sevens and indeed may as we have discussed may be better scene for him to develop.
Aren't they two sides of the same coin?
His ball skills are excellent. His aerial ability in particular is a strength.
His big weaknesses at this stage are defence and decision making. In 2020 in particular he threw too many speculative offloads because he never wanted to die with the ball. This improved a bit in 2021. Undoubtedly he has excellent offloading ability, he just has to pick his moments better.
His defence is bad. It needs a lot of work. He wasn't alone there for the Waratahs this season.
sendit
Bob Loudon (25)
Not really. His aerial skill comes from his height and body build not from anything else. I’d challenge his ball skills aren’t actually that great either, anyone can throw speculater passes and get some to land
Same as I’d say big T was never particularly talented, a very valuable asset yes, but not particularly talented
Jack Maddocks is taller than Mark Nawaqanitawase but far inferior under a high ball.
You make it sound like Israel Folau was only good in the air because he was tall and none of it was skill related.
You make it sound like Israel Folau was only good in the air because he was tall and none of it was skill related.
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
Not writing him off - but its not a good comparison - Quade was a wallaby same year he was U20.
Quade was wayyyyyyyyy more skilled then Mark
sendit
Bob Loudon (25)
Meaning Maddocks isn’t very talented aerially either
So you think what Folau did in the air is comparable to what Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) can do?
Rob42
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Playing a broken record, but Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) is just the type of player who needs the NRC - he's a standout at Shute Shield level (and U20s), but trying to learn defence and decision-making at Super Rugby level is just rough.
It's ludicrous to suggest he shouldn't be in the squad, if the system was working properly, he'd be getting plenty of time at NRC level, and time off the bench for the Tahs to understand what happens at the next level.