Waratahs 2020

[cyclopath]

Depends where they play everyone. Maddocks, Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) and Beale are a handy looking back 3 with Newsome and Clark decent backups

I reckon Clark has some potential - good pace, good defender. Don't think we lose too much there.

 

[Silverado]

I reckon Clark has some potential - good pace, good defender. Don't think we lose too much there.

Yes, I agree. Was just pointing out that we have a decent spread of wingers. If Maddocks goes to fullback or sevens we have good backup without the need to bring in a foreign player

 

[qwerty51]

Clark = defence
Newsome = attack

Will be interesting to see which way Penny goes.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

"I reckon Clark has some potential - good pace, good defender. Don't think we lose too much there."

I can't say I have seen that with Clark Cyclo - be interested to know what his time for 100m would be....lack of pacey wingers for tahs to my mind been a gap for a while

 

[7137]

Clark is one of the fastest guys in Super Rugby for top line speed. I recall him running down Reiko Ioane and tackling him before the line. He has amazing pace, but I think he lacks explosive acceleration to get on the outside and he’s not very evasive.

 

[Braveheart81]

 

[Derpus]

Love it

 

[Braveheart81]

Love it

It was the one highlight from a very average night at Brookvale Oval.

 

[Jimmyjam]

Because the Reds & Brumbies are the only true clubs. Let them have their own rules.

Scott Malolua

• 26Age​
• 86kgWeight​
• 178cmHeight​

Biography

Scott Malolua will be looking to build upon the experience he gained last year ahead of the 2020 Super Rugby season.

Malolua was brought into the St.George Queensland Reds squad during the 2019 pre-season as injury cover for fellow number nine James Tuttle.

He continued to train and prepare with the team throughout the season, before his hard work and perseverance paid off in Round 16 when he came off the bench against the Jaguares at Suncorp Stadium for his Super Rugby debut.

An ankle injury to Tate McDermott in that same match saw Malolua start at scrumhalf in the Reds final two games of 2019 against the Blues and Brumbies.

The crafty scrumhalf went on to make his Test debut for Samoa against the Wallabies at Bankwest Stadium in Sydney. A shoulder injury on the stroke of halftime saw him sidelined for the rest of the match and cruelly denied him a Rugby World Cup campaign in Japan.

 

[SuperGrover]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe being capped in 7's for a country rules you out for XV for another country, so he hasn't technically been capped elsewhere.

That said, yes the new 5 year residency laws make it unlikely he'd ever play for the Wallabies. I think he's 25 from memory so would be 30 odd before eligible if he hung around.

Unfortunately, it does.

Regulation 8.2(c) effectively states [paraphrasing here] that representing the senior Sevens team at 20 years or older (or 18 if in the Olympics or Rugby World Cup Sevens) rules that player ineligible to represent another Union at either Sevens or XVs.

 

[Jimmyjam]

Because the Reds & Brumbies are the only true clubs. Let them have their own rules.

Brumbies also have 3 players you wouldn't exactly call local products.....

Murray Douglas Scotland
Solomone Kata NZ via Tonga
Toni Pulu NZ


So which rules were you referring to when you said "the Reds & Brumbies are the only true clubs. Let them have their own rules?"

 

[Braveheart81]

So which rules were you referring to when you said "the Reds & Brumbies are the only true clubs. Let them have their own rules?"

The rule that he hates the Waratahs.

 

[formerflanker]

Great avatar Jimmyjam.

 

[7137]

David Feao. Tongan international capped Prop in the Reds squad also. So the Reds have 2 foreign capped players in the squad

 

[Adam84]

Reds have had Daniel Braid, Adam Thomson and Ayumu Goromaru over the years. Brumbies had foreigners Cubelli at halfback and Hawera at flyhalf for a couple of years as well..

The whole concept should be stopped since the Force are gone though, there aren’t enough positions available in Australia to be giving them to foreigners who will never be eligible for the Wallabies. The one exemption been, if it were for completely unforeseeable reasoning or injury cover.

Lack of depth at fly-half today is a byproduct of the foreigners filling those positions in recent years.. Look back at the 2018 season you had Peter Grant at 10 for the Western Force, Hawera at 10 for the Brumbies, and Jackson Garden-Bachop at 10 for the Rebels, its no wonder that when Quade and Foley suddenly move overseas we have no experienced depth in the flyhalf position.

There were a infatuation with foreign backrowers for a number of years as well with guys like Potgeiter, Delve, Mafi, Braid, Thomson, Tui and a handful more I’m forgetting all filling the backrow positions. And then we wonder why we have no blindside flankers or no.8 ready to step up for Test rugby.

 

[molman]

Unfortunately, it does.

Regulation 8.2(c) effectively states [paraphrasing here] that representing the senior Sevens team at 20 years or older (or 18 if in the Olympics or Rugby World Cup Sevens) rules that player ineligible to represent another Union at either Sevens or XVs.

So did those NZ 7's players slip into the Samoa/Tonga squads in the RWC2019 because they were 19 or younger when they played for NZ? or have the rules been updated recently?


I'm talking about the likes of Nafi Tu’itavake (Tonga), Belgium Tuatagaloa (Samoa) and obviously 
Tim Nanai-Williams (Samoa).


Nanai must have been cutting it close as I'm pretty sure he was around 20 when I remember him running around for 7's.


Anyway as I said, with the new 5yr resistance req, it's unlikely you'll get someone switching countries unless they move in their early 20's.


I still disagree with the sentiment of having no foreign players as long as it's done with care (ie. we're developing Aussies in those positions also/it's kept to a minimum). Even the Blue's have an English international (Joe Merchant) playing for them this season. With a number of players having Wallabies, U20's, 7's etc.. commitments, we need to ensure some depth in our squads where necessary.

 

[RoffsChoice]

Brumbies also have 3 players you wouldn't exactly call local products...



Murray Douglas Scotland

Solomone Kata NZ via Tonga

Toni Pulu NZ Niue (and qualifies to play for Australia)





So which rules were you referring to when you said "the Reds & Brumbies are the only true clubs. Let them have their own rules?"

I'm still not thrilled that guys like Kata and Douglas are here when we've let guys like Whetton and Dargaville go in the past.

Whetton has always showed promise and this will probably be his breakout year, and you just know he would have had a great chance to develop a partnership with Swain over the last few years at club and NRC level.

Dargaville was so clearly a brilliant talent, I was thrilled when we got him, now he's the starting fullback for the Sunwolves.

Not saying I don't like Douglas or Kata, but we had Aussie eligible options.........

 

[Braveheart81]

Tim Nanai-Williams

Nanai-Williams switched allegiances via the Olympic 7s qualifying option. Tuitivake did the same. I don't know about Tuatagaloa.

 

[molman]

@Adam84, I hear what your saying, but I think it's really the Wallabies/RA management responsibility to be working with the Super clubs to ensure that the required depth and development of local talent is occuring. This is where the central contracting in Ireland and NZ probably has the edge.

The Super franchises are just trying to win games (it's an entertainment product after all), so I don't begrudge them bringing in talent when and where necessary. Bringing in the experience of a NH player like Parling for example probably had many benefits for the Rebels.

I get the impression that overall the RA and clubs are improving in this area. The 10 issues of the last decade was a real cockup I do agree.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Scott Malolua

• 26Age​
• 86kgWeight​
• 178cmHeight​

Biography

Scott Malolua will be looking to build upon the experience he gained last year ahead of the 2020 Super Rugby season.

Malolua was brought into the St.George Queensland Reds squad during the 2019 pre-season as injury cover for fellow number nine James Tuttle.

He continued to train and prepare with the team throughout the season, before his hard work and perseverance paid off in Round 16 when he came off the bench against the Jaguares at Suncorp Stadium for his Super Rugby debut.

An ankle injury to Tate McDermott in that same match saw Malolua start at scrumhalf in the Reds final two games of 2019 against the Blues and Brumbies.

The crafty scrumhalf went on to make his Test debut for Samoa against the Wallabies at Bankwest Stadium in Sydney. A shoulder injury on the stroke of halftime saw him sidelined for the rest of the match and cruelly denied him a Rugby World Cup campaign in Japan.

Believe it only happened after he signed.

Would be happy if we punted him.

Would also be happy if the Tahs go bankrupt.