Waratahs 2020

[qwerty51]

Well that was my point although I didn’t explicitly write it. This is a get out of my contract with pay; free card. If you remember, the early rumours were Folau did this get out of his long term RA contract and get paid for it.

 

[fatprop]

I'm not really sure what your point is here. It's generally pretty obvious if an employee is damaging the reputation of the employer. You then need to make it stop or if it's irreconcilable you terminate their employment.

No part of this suggests that terminating the employment doesn't come at a cost to pay them out.

The concept that this sets some sort of precedent that the next time an employee does this they will be allowed to just continue doing it regardless of the impact it causes it is complete fantasy.

Standard rule, if someone maybe required to be defend in court the company's "core values", don't let the HR department write it, and get it vetted by your legal team

 

[Brumby Runner]

The challenge is what the f*ck doesn't fit under "undermining the commercial interests of a sponsor/employer" where those "core values" are nebulously documented at a some weekend management retreat facilitated by someone from HR

And subject to regular review as HR personnel come and go bringing the latest fads along with them.

 

[Braveheart81]

I don't really see what HR has to do with this.

We're talking about a situation where there is a complete breakdown in the relationship and the employer has lost control of the employee who is actively damaging the public reputation of the employer.

Fatprop seems to be insinuating a situation where the employer and employee are otherwise enjoying a good working relationship and HR is saying that they've got to be fired because they breached a policy that they came up with.

 

[Jimmy_Crouch]

I'm trying to figure out if the new prop Tauakipulu is Aus eligible. An exert from the article reads "Despite his upbringing on the other side of the Tasman, there is an Australian connection for the promising front rower with brother, Keynan based in Queensland and representing Australia at U18 level." https://nsw.rugby/news/2019/12/02/tiaan-tauakipulu-joins-nsw-waratahs

Are the rules for U18s the same as U20s, sevens and test eligibility (i.e. five year residency, birth or parentage)? If so does his brother qualify via Aus parentage? Otherwise he'll have to wait til he's 23 to represent Australia. The Tahs haven't had a foreign development player for while, as far as I recall.

He went Springfield HS then IGS before heading over to NZ to finish school. Not sure if he was born here.

 

[Froggy]

Fatprop, it depends very much on what the post said, and what happened next. Let's take your Glencore example. If a player posts 'I believe coal mining is damaging the planet, and would like the government to put a moratorium on new mines' would be regarded very differently to 'Burning coal is killing people, coal miners are effectively murderers and should be jailed'

Secondly, if the player who made the second statement was counselled, and told that accusing people going about their quite legal daily work of a serious criminal offence was not acceptable, and to do so again could result in possible termination, the counselling was recorded in writing and signed by the offending player to the effect that he had received this warning, then yes, should he re-offend he may be terminated.

I would think the player who made the first statement would be just reminded that Glencore were paying his wages, he is free to have his beliefs, but just keep his posts civil and respectful of all concerned.

 

[Sully]

Please don't start this inanother thread.

 

[cyclopath]

What Sully said. We have one cesspool. For now. Probably not for long.

 

[Froggy]

Sorry, just responding to Fatprop's post, will get back to rugby

 

[Pfitzy]

In good news: I've been elected* Division 5 & 6 Delegate for Suburban Rugby. My rise to the top has commenced, and it will only be a matter of time before I am CEO of both the Waratahs, NSW Rugby, and Rugby Australia.


*unopposed, I might add. There were others, but once they heard I was standing, they ran in fear. No idea why they were giggling. Hysterical fear, I suppose.

 

[TSR]

Congrats ????

 

[Adam84]

In good news: I've been elected* Division 5 & 6 Delegate for Suburban Rugby. My rise to the top has commenced, and it will only be a matter of time before I am CEO of both the Waratahs, NSW Rugby, and Rugby Australia.


*unopposed, I might add. There were others, but once they heard I was standing, they ran in fear. No idea why they were giggling. Hysterical fear, I suppose.

Which private school and uni did you attend?
That’s the number 1 pre-requisite on Australian Rugby Job applications

 

[cyclopath]

In good news: I've been elected* Division 5 & 6 Delegate for Suburban Rugby. My rise to the top has commenced, and it will only be a matter of time before I am CEO of both the Waratahs, NSW Rugby, and Rugby Australia.


*unopposed, I might add. There were others, but once they heard I was standing, they ran in fear. No idea why they were giggling. Hysterical fear, I suppose.

You have my congratulations, and pity (for getting to sit in what could be nail-pulling meetings).
When you ascend the throne as Grand Poo-Bah of Rugby, remember those of us who tolerated you for so long and pretended to like you!

 

[Pfitzy]

Congrats ????

First against the wall!

Which private school and uni did you attend?
That’s the number 1 pre-requisite on Australian Rugby Job applications

 

[fatprop]

So Pfitzy joins the blazer brigade

 

[Pfitzy]

So Pfitzy joins the blazer brigade

Sacrifices must be made.

 

[formerflanker]

Sacrifices must be made.

Importantly, which wine will you be quaffing at the "meetings"?

 

[Pfitzy]

Importantly, which wine will you be quaffing at the "meetings"?

150 lashes. And I'll probably have to bring my own, given they served VB last time

 

[formerflanker]

150 lashes. And I'll probably have to bring my own, given they served VB last time

BYO certainly reduces any opportunities for Suzie to wield her poisonous ways against you.

 

[formerflanker]

Well that was my point although I didn’t explicitly write it. This is a get out of my contract with pay; free card. If you remember, the early rumours were Folau did this get out of his long term RA contract and get paid for it.

But in the name of all that's holy, why on earth would he seriously want that? It defies all logic.