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Waratahs 2014

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Absent Friend

Peter Burge (5)
Randwick v Eastwood @ Coogee Oval (3pm) (ABCTV GAME)
Randwick: 1 Faitotoa Asa, 2 Patrick Hodgetts, 3 Richard Aho, 4 Geoff Ingram, 5 William Munro, 6 Seilala Lam (c), 7 Tom Connor, 8 Nathan Paila, 9 Harrison Boileau, 10 David Horwitz, 11 Ethan Ford, 12 Pete Samu, 13 Terrence Hepetema, 14 Timothy Wright, 15 Rennie Lautolo
Eastwood: 1 Jed Gillespie, 2 Damien Fitzpatrick, 3 Marty Plokstys, 4 Jared Barry, 5 Mitch Lees, 6 Hugh Perrett (c), 7 Hugh Roach, 8 Locky McCaffrey, 9 Shanin Proctor, 10 Jimmy Hilgendorf, 11 Nick Batger, 12 Michael McDougall, 13 Cam Mitchell, 14 Nick Reily, 15 Ben Batger
Referee: Rohan Hoffman
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I'm looking for a fringes or higher waratah in that list Absent Friend, but I see nothing.

The interesting players for Tahs fans are Damien Fitzpatrick playing one of his first few games back and Hugh Roach who many (well, at least me) want to see in the Tahs squad next year. David Horwitz is definitely a chance at an EPS spot next year too.

Aside from that, Richard Aho and Terence Hepetema have had some involvement with the Tahs this season when the Wallabies players have been out.
 

sudrugby

Watty Friend (18)
Damien Fitzpatrick has apparently signed for Lyon in French Second Division... I can't understand why they have recruited a guy who has not played for 2 years
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Probably the right call made by the Tahs and Damien.

All of a sudden the Tahs hooker depth is nil. Only TPN is signed for next year.

You'd think Roach would get a full contract but not sure he is ready as a 2nd string hooker yet. Who else can we look at?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Roach is a fine player but his throwing to the lineout has been problematic just about every time I've seen him play.

This is starting to make sense:

One of the props in the 20's Silatolu Latu also plays hooker and I think that is his correct position and should be groomed for it

Latu has already been training with the Tahs. Obviously he is young but he's one of those youngsters who plays beyond his years and is tough beyond them too.

If the Tahs can't recruit Roach he could be a third-string hooker but they need a mature second-stringer.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Roach is a fine player but his throwing to the lineout has been problematic just about every time I've seen him play.

One would hope this blemish in Roach's rugby repertoire could be fixed in the right environment with competent coaching, and plenty of practice.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Roach is a fine player but his throwing to the lineout has been problematic just about every time I've seen him play
One would hope this blemish in Roach's rugby repertoire could be fixed in the right environment with competent coaching, and plenty of practice.

This is not a comment directed at young Roach but a much more general point.

How come a professional dart player with the obligatory minimum of six pints on board can consistently land the dart in an area no bigger than a twenty-cent-piece, while a professional rugby hooker, paid in the region of $200K to $400K principally to throw into the lineout, would struggle to hit the dart board itself more than 50% of the time?
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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Good question but I am not wise enough to know the answer.

But on Silatolu Latu, a Sydney Uni player.

Are you close enough to the club to get a feel of how he is going in a S&C and/or a general rugby sense.

And, to the best of your knowledge, has he played Grade rugby?
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Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
But on Silatolu Latu, a Sydney Uni player.

Are you close enough to the club to get a feel of how he is going in a S&C and/or a general rugby sense.

And, to the best of your knowledge, has he played Grade rugby?
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If I remember rightly, LG, Tolu played quite a lot of Grade rugby even last year, mainly in Seconds. He is more advanced physically than most players his age.
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Absent Friend

Peter Burge (5)
The Eastwood set piece has been good this year, the lineout in particular has worked well with both throwing and catching excellant. I guess over 90% sucess on own throw and also 2-3 steals per game. Scrum has also been good. Manetti has 4 genuine 1st grade props, 3 hookers and a stong 4 and 5 in lees and Barry ( Cummins out for season). Backrow is also good and we see Fitzy at 2 today and Roach starting at 7. Good problems to have. IMHO Roach could step into Super Rugby without too much drama, the Force certainly think so.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Earlier in the season he had problems throwing straight and the right distance in an Academy game I saw (maybe both of them, I forget); so it's good to hear that he must be throwing better.

There's no doubt that he's an abrasive player for a guy who weighs 96kgs and he has to be as most hookers are a bit beefier and abrasive.

He's a gym junkie and was even in his school days and has a Phil Waugh burning desire to succeed despite limitations - in Roach's case, his weight.

I know hookers who weigh as much as he does who have succeeded, but he will have to play big to overcome not being big, and to nail more throws than is average.

So Roach is playing 7 today? That will be worth watching.
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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
If I remember rightly, LG, Tolu played quite a lot of Grade rugby even last year, mainly in Seconds..

He probably "earned" too many points from being in Oz Under 20s last year and "cost" too much for his Colts team.

I wouldn't be surprised if young Pulver has to play Grade next year, ready or not, for the same reason.
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en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
This is not a comment directed at young Roach but a much more general point.

How come a professional dart player with the obligatory minimum of six pints on board can consistently land the dart in an area no bigger than a twenty-cent-piece, while a professional rugby hooker, paid in the region of $200K to $400K principally to throw into the lineout, would struggle to hit the dart board itself more than 50% of the time?
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Darts are a closed skill, lineouts are an open skill.
 
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