Waratahs 2013

[I like to watch]

Secondly, the penalty for failure is generally a line drop out, so pressure can be built again or a team working out from their goal line

Now compare that to rugby.
Catch the ball on the full in the 22 - mark & then kick it away
Catch the ball behind the goal line - 22 drop - pressure released

Certainly in Mungo, there is a reward for failing(in goal drop kick)
But I don't believe there is sufficient disincentive in Rugby.A kick to the corner(not in goal) = no down side.Any mark taken against the sideline will not relieve much pressure if they kick it in touch.
Anything not in touch,invites a counter opportunity.

 

[Rob42]

Certainly in Mungo, there is a reward for failing(in goal drop kick)
But I don't believe there is sufficient disincentive in Rugby.A kick to the corner(not in goal) = no down side.Any mark taken against the sideline will not relieve much pressure if they kick it in touch.
Anything not in touch,invites a counter opportunity.

Yes there's down-side: a bomb into heavy traffic is little better than 50:50, just to recover possession - it doesn't necessarily increase the chance of a try. And a cross-kick to a 1 on 1 jump between the wingers leaves a real risk of counter-attack if the defender takes it cleanly with daylight in front of him. A good option with Folau out wide if you have a penalty advantage, but otherwise, the Tahs have been effective generally at making metres with good ball-in-hand play - why go for a low percentage play when you have the ability to score with well-constructed play?

 

[I like to watch]

Why would you do a bomb into heavy traffic?
You would do it to isolate a winger in a one on one.
With the right kicker,and the right receiver(IF)it is hardly low percentage.

 

[JSRF10]

It would be a more than 50:50 option for us if we had a kicker who could consistently put the ball where Folau can take it at his highest point, unfortunately Foley doesn't have the skill set to do it in fact there are only a few players in world who have the kicking ability to do this. Unless we see Izzy lining up alongside players with the kicking ability of Carter, Steyn or Sexton it should be something kept in the locker for when we have an advantage.

 

[boyo]

In terms of a bomb, it has to be remembered that Folau is taller than most.

 

[p.Tah]

Article highlighting how many junior clubs the Tahs have visited or are planning to visit this year.

Having kicked off earlier this month, the Blitz will see all 53 junior clubs taking part in Sydney Junior Competitions receive a visit from HSBC Waratahs players before the middle of June. With 18 club visits already complete, the remaining 35 outings are planned for next week and will see players join youngsters at training to share their training tips and encouragement before answering questions, signing autographs and posing for photos.

I remember how much I loved these things as a kid. Great stuff.

http://www.waratahs.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/157/ArticleID/9292/Default.aspx

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^ One for the Waratahs Positivity Thread perhaps p.Tah ?

Could be time to revisit some of the suggestions in the threads like Ideas for Australian Rugby Threads and start ticking off some of the ideas that the interns have implemented. Pretty sure Tahs visits to junior village clubs is in that thread.

 

[fatprop]

Yeah I guess the Tahs v Lions team will look like

1 Tilse
2 Ulugia
3 Ryan
4 Douglas\Skelton
5 Holloway\Atkins
6 Chapman
7 McCucheon
8 Timani
9 McKibbon
10 Volavola
11 Mitchell
12 Carter
13 Kingston
14 Betham
15 Crawford

It appear Foley will be out for this game, Lions by 60

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...y-out-of-tahs-lions-clash-20130528-2n9mb.html

 

[wamberal]

It appear Foley will be out for this game, Lions by 60

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...y-out-of-tahs-lions-clash-20130528-2n9mb.html

Oh, ye of little faith!

 

[qwerty51]

How can they take Foley, he's got a Super rugby contract. The players had to chose.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

It appear Foley will be out for this game, Lions by 60

Taking tipping lessons from PaarlBok?

The standard "we're doomed" tip using Oom's methodology is the opposition by 50 points.

Yet to see the Saffers or Stormers done by 50.

 

[Big Lebowski]

It is no doubt a shame the Tah's seem to be losing Foley for the Lions clash however it could also be a great chance to let Volavola get some more time in at 10. I think his arrival at the Tah's has been seriously overshadowed by Folau and some excellent form from Foley. Volavola in some of his games earlier in the season added a spark to a seemingly dead early 2013 season tah's back line. And now with Barnes and Foley MIA I believe we will see some interesting things from this young player as he further develops his skill set.

 

[masai]

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question.

Why is Drew's club side listed as Balmain in the team lists? Surely his association with the Wicks takes precedence, given that they actually play in the Shute Shield. Or has Drew left Randwick this season?

 

[Lindommer]

When Mitchell filled out his ARU rugby registration form he listed Balmain as his club, and he (very) occasionally turns out for them. Balmain lend him to Randwick for Shute Shield matches. Odd, I know, but it's his choice.

 

[masai]

Ta, Lindommer. That is quite odd.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

When Mitchell filled out his ARU rugby registration form he listed Balmain as his club, and he (very) occasionally turns out for them. Balmain lend him to Randwick for Shute Shield matches. Odd, I know, but it's his choice.

It was the same with Giteau who was registered with Balmain. Played there once.

Gregan was aligned with Randwick but last played or trained with them when he had hair.

Folou is registered with Uni. For all the games he will play for them he might as well be registered with barbarian 's KOB subbies club.

 

[fatprop]

From the Herald today, a picture of the school kid Skelton with Palu, and the pro rugby player Skelton with Palu.

The guy has been doing some work

 

[fatprop]

When Mitchell filled out his ARU rugby registration form he listed Balmain as his club, and he (very) occasionally turns out for them. Balmain lend him to Randwick for Shute Shield matches. Odd, I know, but it's his choice.

I would think there is money involved

 

[jay-c]

if skelton keeps improving and keeps his intensity up he'll be a crowd favourite in no time!

 

[Pfitzy]

I would think there is money involved

From Balmain? The club that reappeared a few years back and climbed the divisions quicker than a rat up a pipe?

Say it ain't so!