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Wallaby Watch 2014

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Tomikin

David Codey (61)
Honey Bogan walks onto one of the wings in my view. Tomane is showing good signs. If Beale is to become a Wallaby again, this may be his only position at the moment. Turner was showing good signs but injury always lurks. McCabe could be a smokey.

Tomane is my bet at this stage.

This is an Honest Question, Other then the great game against the Tah's which was 4 runs 2 intercepts and alby put him in a hole oh and the best post match interview ever (he should be captain) what has he done this year.

Tomane has in the last 2 weeks to be really really friggen hard at the tackle in his runs and showing great hands.. But before that Coleman was better and in my mind till the Reds game and this one he would have been dropped for Speight. Dear god what to do

Turner wont make it as his been too injuries but is a good player just to force his way back in will be tough.

McCabe.. yep agree
Mogg ... I think his amazing but his defence is like a wet paper bag on fire... He makes Quade look like Anthony Fiangaa on D.. But his positive are way better then his negatives

Someone needs to Slap Beale .. I think his trying to hard which is affecting everything.. Put him on a wing for a match or two and say.. I want you to catch the ball and run .. no passing unless its on.. just run straight and hard, not his game but you know it would help him..
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
He runs straight, he runs hard, he has a good defensive read and impact in the tackle, his work rate off the ball is exceptional, his Wallaby form last year very good. That is why I would select HB without a doubt. I think Cooper is going to be the Wallaby 10 and HB has the game to profit from Cooper's strengths in passing and freeing up space. The other wing will be one with the better footwork and one on one flair and that is why I like Tomane for the job.

It has been said before but he is a bit like Ben Tune.
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
He runs straight, he runs hard, he has a good defensive read and impact in the tackle, his work rate off the ball is exceptional, his Wallaby form last year very good. That is why I would select HB without a doubt. I think Cooper is going to be the Wallaby 10 and HB has the game to profit from Cooper's strengths in passing and freeing up space. The other wing will be one with the better footwork and one on one flair and that is why I like Tomane for the job.

It has been said before but he is a bit like Ben Tune.

I agree complete.. Just Form

At my guess wingers will be the Badge and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper).. But Coleman just I love a little under dog half the size just smashing into people..

I actually seen it twice now that Coleman is the inside runner for the Brumbies normally you Have a big guy there..

But last night they got a try from it (he got hammered) like the first time i seen it inside ball at about a billion miles an hour and got hammered but you gotta respect it..
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
I agree with you in rating Coleman. He is a bloody effective player for a little fella. In the TNW or Aplon mould.
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
I agree with you in rating Coleman. He is a bloody effective player for a little fella. In the TNW or Aplon mould.

I loved that Benny Mowen has said.. that Coleman just says if I got a one on one give me the ball I will make it happen.. And Won't see a better kick chaser in the world. He Chases everything.. Im pretty sure his decided he wont get picked because of size so I will be quick faster and harder working then anyone else..
 

caymantim

Herbert Moran (7)
I'd say the Honey Badger is a better kick chaser than Coleman... and his defense is far better than Tomane. One on one, Coleman is incredible... but not sure it is all enough for International rugby.


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Tomikin

David Codey (61)
I'd say the Honey Badger is a better kick chaser than Coleman. and his defense is far better than Tomane. One on one, Coleman is incredible. but not sure it is all enough for International rugby.


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you haven't watch Coleman and Kick Chases.. or Cover Defence....

I dont really think Coleman will ever play for the Wobs.. (I mean look at the wings Speight Badger AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) Tomane Izzy mogg even woodward..
 

caymantim

Herbert Moran (7)
I have, he's remarkable. I've always been a fan of the guy actually. So much talent, unfortunately it's wrapped up in a tiny package! Says a lot that he has come so far in this day and age of massive players.


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tranquility

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The lines Robbie ran at the U20 world cup from 12, were simply put, remarkable.
 

lewisr

Bill McLean (32)
Question for all, are we picking for France or the World Cup? Honest question, its an interesting debate but I feel we need to develop some continuity. And that includes the captaincy.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
I agree (@lewisr) with regard to the Captaincy, but the problem there is who is to be Captain? If Pocock wasn't injured quite likely it would have gone to him. With Mowen going do you strip him of the Captaincy and not select him? It may infuriate many Reds supporters but I just don't rate Horwill as anywhere near the best in his position in 2013 or 2014 or as Captain at any time (outside of the Reds good times but he has fallen away as the team has). Genia, sorry as I said earlier if we had beeter 9's in Oz he would be under pressure for a bench spot, as it is on form he gets the bench only on form so no Captaincy IMO, and I rate his Captaincy less than Horwill's.
Going through the Super Captains, Dennis and Hodgeson are not likely to get a selection so can't really consider them, Higgers - sorry I think he will be on the bench unless Fardy is moved to Lock (which wont happen if Horwill is selected). The only other contender who is Captaining a Super side semi-regularly is Hooper and he is likely to be selected first up with Pocock injured.

The only other certain starter I can think of who has Captained their Super side is Stephen Moore. I assume there are reasons why he has been passed over for the Captainship by successive coaches despite his seniority?
 
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tranquility

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To be honest, I think we need to pick the best team available. I'm not sure what Link's take on players leaving is, ie; Mowen. But I think for the sake of the Wobs we need to try to win all of those test matches.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
And to be fair, the best team available on form is largely going to players with Test experience. I don't see many Bolters at all apart from Spreight and Maybe a lock.

Also most players are specialists in their rightful positions apart from To'omua if he shifts to 12 - but thats proven to work.

So I don't think continuity is as bad as the Dean's era when their would be half the team out of position. Our current squad reminds me of the All Blacks who generally have specialist in each position and are capable of rotating or substituting players without breaking down the entire balance of the team.
 

lewisr

Bill McLean (32)
Always agree with your posts, Gnostic. Another good one.

ALso agree with you, Seb. We have plenty of talent in each position so I don't think that will be our issue. The Brumbies backline bar a spot for maybe Cummins/ AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) and Folau are pushing their claim to wear the yellow Jersey. And then just think of the reserves behind them:

Genia, Cooper, Godwin, Beale, CFS, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Foley, Phipps etc etc. They are all well versed in their positions now and would provide more than adequate back up.

Forward pack is also looking relatively strong although there wil have to be questions raised over whether or not Horwill gets another shot. His form has actually been improving but I dont know whether or not its worth a jersey.

By far our biggest issue is the captaincy, no one is standing out at the moment. On form, Mowen is the winner but he wont be with us next year. So who do you go with? As much as it isn't ideal, I think you fall back on Horwill as he knows the role, the coach and the players more than anyone else.

I think the suggested issue with moore is that he can be fairly negative at times. From what I have heard he always has something to say about other players and isn't always the best team man. But this is all rumour.
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
Have not been here for a while but it is coming around to that time.
It would be counter productive to select Mowen for this series because of his captaincy skills. He would not be the first chosen at 8 with all contenders fit and he will not be around for the foreseeable future.
Select the squad(with an eye on the RWC) and then select the captain.
I reckon there will be several very good captaincy candidates.
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
By far our biggest issue is the captaincy, no one is standing out at the moment. On form, Mowen is the winner but he wont be with us next year. So who do you go with? As much as it isn't ideal, I think you fall back on Horwill as he knows the role, the coach and the players more than anyone else.

I think the suggested issue with moore is that he can be fairly negative at times. From what I have heard he always has something to say about other players and isn't always the best team man. But this is all rumour.

I like the idea of Hooper, he is consistent, respected, and leads by example.
 

Benaud

Tom Lawton (22)
It's great having so many debatable positions right now. I can only pencil 2 names in with confidence - Izzy and Moore. The rest look open to me.

On the wing, I suspect Tomane and Cummins lead the charge but AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is an option there too. Coleman, Mogg, Woodward, Horne, Turner, etc., all look an absolute blinder or two away from serious consideration.

Inside: Lealiifano, McCabe and Beale are all battling for one spot. Lealiifano probably has the edge but needs to earn a permanent place in the Brumbies starting XV first.

Outside: AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Kuridrani and Tapuai playing for one spot. Assuming Tomane and Cummins are the wings, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is probably first pick here, although the other 2 are right on his hammer.

Halves: Looks a straight battle between the QLD pair and the Brumbies pair. At this stage, most would probably have White and Cooper but I suspect they'll stick with a state combo either way. Nothing in it at all right now.

Up front, who slots in either side of Moore in the scrum is anyone's guess. The Brumbies scrum has been so-so to date so selecting all 3 front rowers from there seems unlikely. Slipper and Robinson look the more likely starters to me with Sio and Alexander backing up, although could make a case for Cowan as well. Who knows - it's a weak link position in the side right now regardless of who is selected.

Similarly in the 2nd row. Last year, Simmons was starting to establish himself and Horwill went from team captain to questionable starter. Now Horwill has moved into the unlikely starter category. Simmons hasn't been in great form either but perhaps not poor enough to lose his spot given the lack of alternatives. Fardy is available for this position and also blindside. I expect this is his more likely place given he has serious competition at blindside but is first picked here. I'm leaning towards Fardy and Simmons at this stage but could easily be swayed. The Rebels pair, Carter, Douglas and Horwill are all in the mix too.

At openside, Hooper is almost a certainty but it remains to be seen how well Gill comes back. Hodgson next best. This is potentially blown open by Pocock later in the year, who was a certainty to start and likely captain before his injury.

The final 2 positions in the back row appear to go to Higginbotham and Mowen. If Mowen is deemed ineligible, it gets more complicated. Fardy could shift to blindside with Higgers at 8, opening up the way for another 2nd rower. Alternatively, Dennis could play 6, leaving the locks unchanged. Another alternative is McCalman at the back with Higgers at 6.

All very interesting and open anyway at this early stage. For captain, I'd be leaning towards Hooper or Moore given they are almost certain to be picked every time and aren't disappearing next year.
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
Hooper is a guaranteed. Superb form and experience at test level and just won the John eales medal. No chance Hodgson is dislodging him fr the XV.
With kurindrani finding form again he will be 13 with AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) and tomane on the wings. The badger on the bench.
I would have horwill on the bench and hooper captain.
So much depth at lock and I think we get more from other locks.
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
I agree badge is awesome but AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) and tomane offer a bit more. Badge would be great with 20 minutes left running hard at a tired winger and making him work his ass off just to keep up
 
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