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Wallaby Injuries

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tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
Shattered Palu targets World Cup return after fractured shoulder rules him out of Tri Nations
BERRICK BARNES is unlikely to see out the Super Rugby season and must assess his future after suffering another bout of footballer's migraine during Saturday's match.

Well that settles the discussion on whose gonna be number 8. Massive blow for Cliffy.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Well that settles the discussion on whose gonna be number 8. Massive blow for Cliffy.

And No.12 and wing for that matter. Giteau to 12 and JOC (James O'Connor) to wing is the best we can do I think. I can't see Barnes being fit long enough this season to find a spot in the Wallaby team. Our winger injury list is adding up too, which is why I think JOC (James O'Connor) should go there.
 
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I'm starting to think Giteau though in good form would be completely incapable of playing 2nd fiddle to Cooper, which he'd be required to do at inside centre. He's proven particularly this year that he's not a team player. Cummins isn't injured and A Fainga'a will be back in 3-4 weeks. Either A Fainga'a at IC and JOC (James O'Connor) on the wing or JOC (James O'Connor) at IC and Cummins on the wing would be better for the team, though neither player is as skilled as Giteau. Giteau to the bench.

For his own health, there's no way Barnes should be playing again this year.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'm starting to think Giteau though in good form would be completely incapable of playing 2nd fiddle to Cooper, which he'd be required to do at inside centre. He's proven particularly this year that he's not a team player. Cummins isn't injured and A Fainga'a will be back in 3-4 weeks. Either A Fainga'a at IC and JOC (James O'Connor) on the wing or JOC (James O'Connor) at IC and Cummins on the wing would be better for the team, though neither player is as skilled as Giteau. Giteau to the bench.

For his own health, there's no way Barnes should be playing again this year.

How has he proven not to be a team player?

He's been one of the few guys there holding the team together...
 
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How has he proven not to be a team player?

He's been one of the few guys there holding the team together...

Demanding the 10 jumper when it's clearly better that he play IC would have been better earlier in the season. Making the same demands of the Wobs early last year. Keeping the 10 jumper when actually playing IC was even more bizarre.

Telling senior team mates to f#ck off cause he's captain. The list goes on.

He has been an excellent player and been in decent form this year. IMO he's not the kind of player who will change his style to fit in with Genia and Cooper, which is exactly what the Wobs need. Yet again I suspect he'll crab looking for the miracle break that's his trademark but against excellent international defences he won't succeed.

Or I could be completely wrong. I assume he hill be selected so we'll find out.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Demanding the 10 jumper when it's clearly better that he play IC would have been better earlier in the season. Making the same demands of the Wobs early last year. Keeping the 10 jumper when actually playing IC was even more bizarre.

Telling senior team mates to f#ck off cause he's captain. The list goes on.

He has been an excellent player and been in decent form this year. IMO he's not the kind of player who will change his style to fit in with Genia and Cooper, which is exactly what the Wobs need. Yet again I suspect he'll crab looking for the miracle break that's his trademark but against excellent international defences he won't succeed.

Or I could be completely wrong. I assume he hill be selected so we'll find out.

Maybe insisting he play 10 has been a bit selfish, but hardly grounds for hanging.
The bolded bit worries me the least. He WAS the captain at the time in question, he made a decision, Stephen Moore kept chirping in his ear to do something differently, he told him to shut the fuck up and pointed out who was captain. I don't think the rugby field is the place for committee meetings on every decision.
The reception he got from most of his team-mates suggested he is part of the team.
As for the style of play - we'll see. If anything, this year, he has been more direct in his running, especially of late, which could be a very good thing in the Wallabies. On his current form, I would be quite happy to see him there.
 
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I think JOC (James O'Connor) needs to play at 12 for Samoa and the 3N. He needs game time there before Rooster comes back. We can't fit Beale, Drew, Digby and JOC (James O'Connor) in the back three at the RWC.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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I think JOC (James O'Connor) needs to play at 12 for Samoa and the 3N. He needs game time there before Rooster comes back. We can't fit Beale, Drew, Digby and JOC (James O'Connor) in the back three at the RWC.

I don't think JO'C has a Samoan grand-parent. ;)
But I agree with what you mean! He needs some time, maybe not all of it. If Giteau is to be it, and he probably will, he needs to get combos going with Quade and Will.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I think JOC (James O'Connor) needs to play at 12 for Samoa and the 3N. He needs game time there before Rooster comes back. We can't fit Beale, Drew, Digby and JOC (James O'Connor) in the back three at the RWC.

It's highly unlikely Drew will be back. Who would be the other winger?
 
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TheNextBigThing

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It's highly unlikely Drew will be back. Who would be the other winger?

Last I heard from Drew was that everything was on track. His goal was always to make the World Cup. Also he has a history of quick returns to form.

His biggest hurdle is the deadline for the final squad list which is before the final game of the 3N. If he's not named then, he'll only be allowed to join in the event of an injury to another player. That said he doesn't have to be match fit to be named but a player can't rejoin the squad after being replaced due to injury.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
In a funny (not haha) kind of way, the squad is taking shape through a few contentious positions being ruled by injury. The good thing is that we have developed some depth in key areas and there are players who are able to slot in. Inside centre is a good example: we have Barnes, Ant, Giteau and JOC (James O'Connor) who can all play there and have test experience already (though not necessarily in that position). The same with eight and the wings. I am concerned a bit about blindside though. Whilst I worry about the mounting injury toll, it's not a catastrophe at present and many of the injuries are not season ending.

And we are far from alone either, the other contenders have their own problems.
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
I am most concerned about the wingers to be honest. Davies andHynes are not gonna be anywhere near match fit, Lachie Turner is not in form, Luke Morahan isn't international level yet, McCabe is developing more as a center/fullback then a winger, Cummins isn't international level yet, Cam Shepherd is primarily a fullback,and Mitchell is gonna come right down to the line in the fitness race
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I'd take Shep or McCabe on a wing for sure. They wouldn't let anyone down if the crunch came. I want Turner to be there, but the bloke needs to find something, because all I've seen from him this season is him playing himself out of a Wallaby jersey.
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
Yeah I rate both Shep and McCabe very highly, just not sure if they'd get picked as wingers. Turner has never let anyone down in a Wallabies jersey, but his form this year is limiting his chances. Im sure Deans will give him a go though
 

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
Pat McCabe could be a revelation at this years worldcup. I think he is one of those players who could come in and play well without heaps of international experience. Infact, I would go as far to say as we need him in the 22 at the RWC.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Hey all, Bart here from TSF (boo, hiss etc).

Injuries striking everyone all over the place - what's the status on the Wallabies - players like Chisolm gooooone, Elsom, meant to be backl, but what's the Wallaby injury list.

Just want to know if it's as bad as the AB one and too lazy to go lokoing too hard when the info is going to be at your fingertips!!

Cheers,Bart

Good to see you Bart. Geuss you have the Bokke lum and lazy lot?
 
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