Wallaby Coaching Staff

[kiap]

Nathan Grey obviously isn't happy that he could lose his part-time job

Pffft. He's fine. Who needs full time?

Didn't JON have a part-time job in rugby when he wasn't in the casino?

If it's good enough at the top, there's nothing to worry about.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Has Kafe ever coached?

 

[RugbyReg]

Yeah. I believe at the Leicester Tigers after Patty Howard.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Wonder why he hasn't continued doing it here?

Fox sports must pay well.

 

[Gnostic]

Wonder why he hasn't continued doing it here?



Fox sports must pay well.

He has said he didn't enjoy it.

 

[Pusser]

Yeah. I believe at the Leicester Tigers after Patty Howard.

Saracens Aug 2003 to Dec 2004. Finished third last in 2003 and won 4from 11 in 2004.

 

[neilc]

Wonder why he hasn't continued doing it here?

Fox sports must pay well.

I think he said that he worked out (was told by his club bosses) that he wasn't cut out to be a coach and agreed with them. Good analyst/tactician that a coach could use. Fox is not his full time gig.

 

[BarneySF]

I think he said that he worked out (was told by his club bosses) that he wasn't cut out to be a coach and agreed with them. Good analyst/tactician that a coach could use. Fox is not his full time gig.

No, in fact isn't he the current employer of the oft-mentioned Mick Byrne?! Would be nice to loan him out for a secondment with the Wallabies.


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[Scrubber2050]

This week is huge for the Wallabies.

It is also that for Chek and his staff (except newbie Mick).

Chek did well at RWC but pretty unconvincing against the Dodgers.

Another loss takes a wee bit more gloss off the chap

 

[Scrubber2050]

2 more losses now.

These blokes (ALL of the coaching staff) are really starting to show some dents !

Trouble is we have no alternative (that would be better - at least the HC, anyway)

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Anybody seen this?

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/29/aru-alert-michael-cheika-gone-rogue/

I think Spiro has gone completely over the top here, but the Roar faithful are lapping it up. The point I made on the 'Book when an English mate linked to it was that apparently Cheik's approach was perfectly fine when the Tahs and Wallabies were winning and now all of a sudden he's some sort of gauche barbarian. Spare me. Of course my non-Aussie mates are loving it and offering their oh so valuable advice on how to fix things.

 

[dru]

2 more losses now.

These blokes (ALL of the coaching staff) are really starting to show some dents !

Trouble is we have no alternative (that would be better - at least the HC, anyway)

Cheika is rusted on, he's a keeper like it or not. I dont see that Larkham and Grey have to be treated the same. Analysis and recommended strategy needs to start with the assistants in order for the HC to have any chance at a game plan.

But we cant ditch then mid-RC. I'd hope the HP ARU bods are in discussion with Cheika and authorised to find replacements.

For now, we need to live with incremental change over what we have.

 

[dru]

I also note MST's comment elsewhere that the Brumbies are yet to announce HC going forward. Odd.

 

[Lindommer]

Well, the ARU have started the incremental changes with the appointment of Byrne between the mid-year tests and the RC. For Nathan Grey to spout fixing the defence after Bledisloe I was "easy" was silly in the extreme. He'd've been much better off keeping very quiet on that front and spending his talking time on the practice paddock. How many missed tackles were there in Wellington again?

There's no doubt the coaching staff have to be re-jigged, the part-timers for starters. And a specialist forwards coach added as well, preferably someone who's an ace at lineout tactics.

 

[dru]

My first and foremost priority in the WBs coaching squad is nous, analysis and strategy. Is Chook Fowler still around somewhere?

 

[dru]

I read in one of the NZ paper articles that Steve Tew was saying they are always ready to help their partner countries - Aus, RSA, Argentina, Japan.

Let us hope, that ARU personnel were IMMEDIATELY on the phone.

And well done Steve Tew. Hat's off to you sir.

 

[I like to watch]

Pffft. He's fine. Who needs full time?

Didn't JON have a part-time job in rugby when he wasn't in the casino?

If it's good enough at the top, there's nothing to worry about.

Which side of the argument sure to trying to prove with that example?

 

[RedsHappy]

I also note MST's comment elsewhere that the Brumbies are yet to announce HC going forward. Odd.

dru, the most ludicrous aspect of all this was the media feed the ARU put out around 6 weeks or so ago that 'Larkham has to - over time - make up his mind between HC of the Brums and full-time Assistant Coach at the Wallabies'.

As if this guy was a proven star coach and just has the rugby world at his feet with elite coaching options that he must soon deign to select from!

He's proven little more - in any senior coaching role - than the cubed root of fuck-all! His contribution to the 2016 Wallabies is..........invisible. And yet he's being indulged by the ARU and ACTRU with the allowance to take any position he deems best for his interests.

The whole thing is laughable, it's all wrapped up in our lost, dreamy nostalgia for 'the golden years'. 'He was such a wonderful player'. Sooner or later we will have to start living in the now and figure out how we are going to build some more golden years.

Even worse, and somewhat contradictory at that, was to come when B Pulver stated a few months back that, when dealing with media inquiries re the issue of part-time Wallaby coaches, 'we hope to have a full-time Wallaby coaching team in place well before RWC 2019'.

I have long been convinced that the current ARU board and CEO simply have no idea just how fundamentally important is the right quantity and quality of specialist, elite national support coaches in their respective fields of proven competency. They just do not have the collective strategic intellect or the required analytical resources. Consequently they consider a good HC with a part-time assistant or two enough of a capability to somehow compete with Tier 1 teams as they are today, whilst we languish in the competitive standards of eras now long passed.

We see with utter clarity the extent of the NZRU's national specialist coaching depth and breadth and how critical it is for everything they output in terms of rugby product quality, we see the massive, rapid skills and rugby smarts improvement EJ (Eddie Jones) induced into England via a wholly new coaching group of considerable size (and even then he consulted further coaching specialists here in Australia), we see all this and yet we implicitly deem we can be the exception, the team that doesn't need to equate with the best in these other national rugby coaching teams, as we are Australia and we have Micheal Cheika, that will have to do.

Meanwhile, as we sit motionless and inactive (.......'a full-time coaching team by 2019'.......), and patiently awaiting the career preferences of a Larkham, the best of the Tier 1s move on aggressively, and are getting better. Is it any wonder we are falling behind the managerial pace, falling behind in player skill development, and falling behind in results, income, sponsors and crowds?

 

[upthereds#!]

grey, larkham and ledesma gotta go.

Matt Taylor, Scott Wisemantal and Laurie Fisher instead.

 

[I like to watch]

dru, the most ludicrous aspect of all this was the media feed the ARU put out around 6 weeks or so ago that 'Larkham has to - over time - make up his mind between HC of the Brums and full-time Assistant Coach at the Wallabies'.

As if this guy was a proven star coach and just has the rugby world at his feet with elite coaching options that he must soon deign to select from!

He's proven little more - in any senior coaching role - than the cubed root of fuck-all! His contribution to the 2016 Wallabies is....invisible. And yet he's being indulged by the ARU and ACTRU with the allowance to take any position he deems best for his interests.

The whole thing is laughable, it's all wrapped up in our lost, dreamy nostalgia for 'the golden years'. 'He was such a wonderful player'. Sooner or later we will have to start living in the now and figure out how we are going to build some more golden years.

Even worse, and somewhat contradictory at that, was to come when B Pulver stated a few months back that, when dealing with media inquiries re the issue of part-time Wallaby coaches, 'we hope to have a full-time Wallaby coaching team in place well before RWC 2019'.

I have long been convinced that the current ARU board and CEO simply have no idea just how fundamentally important is the right quantity and quality of specialist, elite national support coaches in their respective fields of proven competency. They just do not have the collective strategic intellect or the required analytical resources. Consequently they consider a good HC with a part-time assistant or two enough of a capability to somehow compete with Tier 1 teams as they are today, whilst we languish in the competitive standards of eras now long passed.

We see with utter clarity the extent of the NZRU's national specialist coaching depth and breadth and how critical it is for everything they output in terms of rugby product quality, we see the massive, rapid skills and rugby smarts improvement EJ (Eddie Jones) induced into England via a wholly new coaching group of considerable size (and even then he consulted further coaching specialists here in Australia), we see all this and yet we implicitly deem we can be the exception, the team that doesn't need to equate with the best in these other national rugby coaching teams, as we are Australia and we have Micheal Cheika, that will have to do.

Meanwhile, as we sit motionless and inactive (...'a full-time coaching team by 2019'...), and patiently awaiting the career preferences of a Larkham, the best of the Tier 1s move on aggressively, and are getting better. Is it any wonder we are falling behind the managerial pace, falling behind in player skill development, and falling behind in results, income, sponsors and crowds?

Agree with most of this.
My only issue is who do you appoint in Larkhams place?
Employing someone on a f/t basis is not an automatic fix, as the performance of both U 20's, and 7's unfortunately demonstrates.