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Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

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Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
I think JOC (James O'Connor) and Quade are definitely putting their hand up for positions in the 23, despite being part of a shit outfit. Great to see JOC (James O'Connor) playing his proper position.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
From the form up to now I would have to say No Qld Reds in the run on side and only Slipper in the 23. QC (Quade Cooper) will change that if he plays as he did last night and force his way into the starting spot or at least the bench. For mine the current form 23 is:-

1) Sio
2) Moore
3) Kepu
4) Carter
5) Skelton
6) Fardy
7) Hooper
8) Palu
9) Phipps
10) Foley
11) Speight
12) To'omua
13) Kurindrani
14) Horne/Tomane
15) Folau

16) TPN
17) Slipper
18) Alexander
19) Jones
20) McMahon
21) White
22) Horne/Tomane
23) Beale (even though I don't think he should be contracted lets deal with the realities)
 

Dumbledore

Dick Tooth (41)
Good to see a couple of decent tighthead performances last night. PAE was immense against the Hurricanes, probably the best game of his career, and Holmes was pretty handy against the Lions.

I know it's not particularly fair, but I just can't see a scenario where Alexander playing in a NH world cup under NH refs ends well.
 

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
For mine the current form 23 is:-

1) Sio
2) Moore
3) Kepu
4) Carter
5) Skelton
6) Fardy
7) Hooper
8) Palu
9) Phipps
10) Foley
11) Speight
12) To'omua
13) Kurindrani
14) Horne/Tomane
15) Folau

16) TPN
17) Slipper
18) Alexander
19) Jones
20) McMahon
21) White
22) Horne/Tomane
23) Beale (even though I don't think he should be contracted lets deal with the realities)

With my pro-Brumbies prejudices, I'd have Lealiifano in place of Beale, but otherwise I agree entirely.
 

Brumbieman

Dick Tooth (41)
OK I think these are the locked positions, or should be anyway.

1.
2. Moore
3. Kepu
4.
5.
6. Fardy
7. Hooper
8. Palu (McCalman when the inevitable happens)
9. Phipps
10.
11.
12. To'omua
13. Kuridrani
14. Speight
15. Folau


I'd say Slipper is probable for the 1 jersey, Carter will get one of the 2nd row and Simmons probably the other.
10 will be Cooper, if he recovers form and isn't drowned in the Reds shitness, and I'd say 11 will go to Beiber so that we have an extra kicking option at the back, and a 3rd playmaker in the wide channels. Him and Folau running off each other's shoulder, with Speight in support would be delicious.

That's essentially an optimum 15.

Sio
TPN

Skelton

Pocock
Genia
Foley/Lealiifano/Beale

I'd say rounds out the 23?
 

hammertimethere

Trevor Allan (34)
Probably fair enough currently Brumbieman. We all know Pocock can potentially be in the 23 or the 15 but his play is yet to lock that down for him. At the moment I want Higgers somewhere in the 23. You also haven't yet named a reserve tight head. I want Holmes,
 
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TOCC

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From the form up to now I would have to say No Qld Reds in the run on side and only Slipper in the 23. QC (Quade Cooper) will change that if he plays as he did last night and force his way into the starting spot or at least the bench. For mine the current form 23 is:-
Fortunately years of picking under performing Tahs players for the wallabies has given us the understanding that super rugby form only counts for part of Wallaby selection criteria.
 

Marcelo

Ken Catchpole (46)
OK I think these are the locked positions, or should be anyway.

1.
2. Moore
3. Kepu
4.
5.
6. Fardy
7. Hooper
8. Palu (McCalman when the inevitable happens)
9. Phipps
10.
11.
12. To'omua
13. Kuridrani
14. Speight
15. Folau


I'd say Slipper is probable for the 1 jersey, Carter will get one of the 2nd row and Simmons probably the other.
10 will be Cooper, if he recovers form and isn't drowned in the Reds shitness, and I'd say 11 will go to Beiber so that we have an extra kicking option at the back, and a 3rd playmaker in the wide channels. Him and Folau running off each other's shoulder, with Speight in support would be delicious.

That's essentially an optimum 15.

Sio
TPN

Skelton

Pocock
Genia
Foley/Lealiifano/Beale

I'd say rounds out the 23?

It's most consistent I've read here ;)
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
Fortunately years of picking under performing Tahs players for the wallabies has given us the understanding that super rugby form only counts for part of Wallaby selection criteria.
Probably needs to be a statute of limitations on how long people can bleat about this. But there won't be.
 
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TOCC

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Probably needs to be a statute of limitations on how long people can bleat about this. But there won't be.


You can call it bleating if you like but the point is that form counts for only a part of selection criteria.. Waratahs players just happen to be a prime example of where this has occurred in the past, players picked from an under-performing Tahs side yet they played to a high standard at Wallaby level.

Waratahs won 4 games in 2012 finishing 11th yet players like Kepu, Mitchell, Barnes, TPN, Dennis, Douglas, Robinson, Horne and Timani were still picked for the Wallabies Rugby Championship. Few would argue that these players didn't life their game to a higher level once picked for the Wallabies.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
You can call it bleating if you like but the point is that form counts for only a part of selection criteria.. Waratahs players just happen to be a prime example of where this has occurred in the past, players picked from an under-performing Tahs side yet they played to a high standard at Wallaby level.

Waratahs won 4 games in 2012 finishing 11th yet players like Kepu, Mitchell, Barnes, TPN, Dennis, Douglas, Robinson, Horne and Timani were still picked for the Wallabies Rugby Championship. Few would argue that these players didn't life their game to a higher level once picked for the Wallabies.
Q.E.D.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
You can call it bleating if you like but the point is that form counts for only a part of selection criteria.. Waratahs players just happen to be a prime example of where this has occurred in the past, players picked from an under-performing Tahs side yet they played to a high standard at Wallaby level.

Waratahs won 4 games in 2012 finishing 11th yet players like Kepu, Mitchell, Barnes, TPN, Dennis, Douglas, Robinson, Horne and Timani were still picked for the Wallabies Rugby Championship. Few would argue that these players didn't life their game to a higher level once picked for the Wallabies.

and we saw how that played out in the results.

Incumbency plays a role, as does the mode of play that the coach intends to play (or it should unless your name is Deans) but overall form should be the main guide to selection. A great player in a sustained form slump should not be picked over a player of in good form.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
After watching the tahs game, I'm finding it hard to leave Skelton out of the Wallabies starting 15. The guy is a like was like a runaway train most of the game. The go forward he gave the tahs was invaluable.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
After watching the tahs game, I'm finding it hard to leave Skelton out of the Wallabies starting 15. The guy is a like was like a runaway train most of the game. The go forward he gave the tahs was invaluable.


The interesting thing about Skelton is that he is still relatively physically immature.


He will be an amazing powerhouse when he is a few years older, stronger, and wiser.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
The interesting thing about Skelton is that he is still relatively physically immature.


He will be an amazing powerhouse when he is a few years older, stronger, and wiser.
I'm most impressed, and more than a bit surprised, that the Tahs have got him playing close to 80 minutes most weeks. Still work to do, but his improvement is good to see. Seems to have a good work ethic.
 
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TOCC

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Skeltons fitness has improved massively this season and I'm not surprised Cheika is pushing him for 80mins. Wallabies can't afford to carry a player who can't play 80mins at the RWC, the squad sizes are too small.


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