Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

[TOCC]

I did a post a long time ago, basically it said what you have identified.. But I also compared the wallabies 2011 squad against other teams and it identified that the Wallabies squad of 2011 was vastly inexperienced compared to other tier 1 nations, and that the past few winners of the RWC have had squads which were significantly more experienced and mature then the Wallabies of 2011.

From memory the Wallabies of 2011 were the youngest and least experienced of the RWC contenders.

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[TOCC]

Average age of 2011 RWC Squads

-26 Australia, United States, Wales

-27 Canada, Fiji, Georgia, Namibia, Russia

-28 Argentina, England, France, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Romania, Samoa, Scotland, South Africa, Tonga

-29 Ireland

Previous RWC Winners(average Age/Caps)
1999: Australia(27/622)
2003: England(28/638)
2007: SouthAfrica(27/688)
2011: New Zealand(28/709)


Australia 2015 RWC Squad
Age: 27
Caps: 1236(628 in the forwards, 608 in the backs)

-Nine players age aged 30 or over(Wycliff Palu the oldest at 33)
-13 players who will play at World Cup for the first time
-18 who are returning for a second World Cup



http://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...ikas-31-the-right-wallabies-for-the-world-cup

 

[norpus]

When NZ wins the 2015 cup, will their age/caps be 29/809 or more?

 

[Mr Doug]

Nice to see a photo of Sam Carter, and a bloodied Stephen Moore separating the protagonists (Skelton and Douglas), following a "clash" at training, as shown in this week's "Friday G&GR Email"!!

 

[Tip]

Re: No third hooker

Sio has been the "3rd Hooker" in every Australian touring team since schoolboys.

An irrational me says it's horseshit. Although that probably has something to do with me being the 3rd hooker overlooked when it first happened

A rational me says that this is a good decision, it enables full opposed sessions and seamless transitioning between squad members for the final 23. The 3rd hooker doesn't need to play a game anyway.

Whilst TPN's desire to become the first clinically documented and medically sanctioned case of "sustained, repeated concussions resulting in brain-dead vegetable" is admirable - it doesn't really effect the squad. At his stage, he's going to need 2 weeks on the sideline >minimum< following any head knock, so he'll be out of the squad and replaced regardless to whether we had 2 or 3 hookers..

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Thanks TOCC. I thought in 2011 it was a little too earlier for that squad but they might be cherry ripe now. It's the last chance for a good number of them and it's surely the most experienced Wallaby squad ever assembled. There are some good players who have missed out as well, which is a good sign.

 

[Tomikin]

Nice to see a photo of Sam Carter, and a bloodied Stephen Moore separating the protagonists (Skelton and Douglas), following a "clash" at training, as shown in this week's "Friday G&GR Email"!!

Mr Doug, do you know how Sam took missing the cup squad?

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[Grandmaster Flash]

-Nine players age aged 30 or over(Wycliff Palu the oldest at 33)
-13 players who will play at World Cup for the first time
-18 who are returning for a second World Cup

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...ikas-31-the-right-wallabies-for-the-world-cup

Thinking of players who will be returning to their third RWC:

Giteau (almost said four but forget he wasn't there for 2011), AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Mitchell, Moore, Palu.

 

[qwerty51]

Compared to 0 from England in 2007 and only 7 in 2011. Wow.

We had 5 in 2007 and 15 in 2011.

 

[Mr Doug]

Mr Doug, do you know how Sam took missing the cup squad?

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Tomikin, I told Sam's Grandmother this morning that it's in his interests to let Skelton and Douglas "do battle", in the hope that one may sustain an injury, thus moving Sam closer to being in the 31-man squad!

 

[FilthRugby]

Cheik getting stuck in for the RWC.

 

[KOB1987]

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Cheik getting stuck in for the RWC.

make of it what you like but I reckon it's fucking unreal that he's doing it with them.

 

[Gnostic]

Chiek doing the training is a definite morale booster IMO, no whinging when the "old man" can hold his own

 

[Mr Doug]

Mr Doug, do you know how Sam took missing the cup squad?

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Tomikin, I'm sorry, I didn't fully answer your question this morning. Sam is philosophical about his injury, his recovery, and missing the 31-man squad. He has been given several opportunities to prove his fitness. He trained with the Wallabies on the Wednesday before they flew to Auckland, and again the following Thursday. He captained the Eagles on the weekend, then has been training with the Wallabies again this week.
I expect him to fly to the USA tomorrow, with his next flight being either back to Australia for the NRC, or to the UK for the RWC! If it's the former, his next major goal will be the 2019 RWC in Japan!!

 

[Tomikin]

Tomikin, I'm sorry, I didn't fully answer your question this morning. Sam is philosophical about his injury, his recovery, and missing the 31-man squad. He has been given several opportunities to prove his fitness. He trained with the Wallabies on the Wednesday before they flew to Auckland, and again the following Thursday. He captained the Eagles on the weekend, then has been training with the Wallabies again this week.
I expect him to fly to the USA tomorrow, with his next flight being either back to Australia for the NRC, or to the UK for the RWC! If it's the former, his next major goal will be the 2019 RWC in Japan!!

Thanks Mr Doug always good to hear, wish him luck from us

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[Mr Doug]

Thanks Mr Doug always good to hear, wish him luck from us

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I just sent him a txt msg to that effect, Tomikin.

 

[qwerty51]

Cheika's not far behind the props. I can't imagine the spray you'd get if he beat you.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

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Cheik getting stuck in for the RWC.

That's another thing I've loved about what I've seen from Wallaby camp this week (the first being the dust up between Douglas and Skelton). As a manager one of the best things you can show to your team is that you will only ask them to do what you would willingly do yourself.

 

[saulityvi]

Cheika's not far behind the props. I can't imagine the spray you'd get if he beat you.

I can almost hear Matt Dunning sighing in relief that he doesn't play anymore

 

[Bairdy]

I can almost hear Matt Dunning sighing in relief that he doesn't play anymore

Almost