Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

[Slim 293]

Also, it's apparently now a 72 hour standby period before a replacement player can play...........

Edit: Used poor judgement going by wiki, as the IRB rules still state 48 hrs.

 

[wamberal]

Cheika has obviously decided that we only have two hookers who are worth feeding.

 

[Braveheart81]

Seriously though. Surely one of the props have been training at Hooker.

Yes, there has to be a contingency plan in place.

If you look at the 2011 RWC squads, 5 of the 20 sides only selected two hookers. 6 of the sides only selected 2 halfbacks.

3 sides only selected 2 specialist halfbacks and hookers which is what we're doing.

It's certainly not the norm but it's not unprecedented.

 

[Omar Comin']

Also, once named you can only make squad changes for medical or compassionate reasons only....

Okay then forget the change when the tournament starts thought.

But I'd bet that if Moore gets a 1 week injury that someone else would get replaced in the squad. Or are you saying that a player can only be replaced if it's for a medical or compassionate reason relating to them specifically?

 

[Strewthcobber]

Yes, there has to be a contingency plan in place.

If you look at the 2011 RWC squads, 5 of the 20 sides only selected two hookers. 6 of the sides only selected 2 halfbacks.

3 sides only selected 2 specialist halfbacks and hookers which is what we're doing.

It's certainly not the norm but it's not unprecedented.

Which were they BH? Teams with a genuine chance?

Also, it's now a 72 hour standby period before a replacement player can play.....

 

[Train Without a Station]

Or are you saying that a player can only be replaced if it's for a medical or compassionate reason relating to them specifically?

Yes that's what he's saying. In the event of an injury you cannot replace a fit and available player. The player must be medically ruled out.

 

[Braveheart81]

Which were they BH? Teams with a genuine chance?

Argentina was the only team that made the quarter finals that had 2 hookers and 2 halfbacks.

France only had two halfbacks.

The rest were Fiji plus minnows.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Big Kev would be gutted and feel for him as thought he was playing well. But end of the day you want a coach who is going to be his own person and make decisions based on what he believes will be a winning squad so he has made a call and now will be judged on what it delivers.

White leaving out for my mind is ok as never been a fan as good super rugby player but not really test match standard and Genia more reliable old warhorse.

And someone mentioned sio/smith as 3rd hooker cover option - really? As if moore or TPN get injured and can't play a game or two the only way they can replace them is to kick them out of the tournament as tournament ending injuries. Given how many injuries had with hookers (think last EOYT and who went as hookers given injuries)

Anyhow what is done is done as squad selected so time to hope Cheika got it right and us armchair critics have got it wrong....hope he does proves us wrong....but certainly he has raised a few eyebrows with some of his selections....

 

[Omar Comin']

Yes that's what he's saying. In the event of an injury you cannot replace a fit and available player. The player must be medically ruled out.

Okay well if that's the case I'm with you guys on it being too big a risk.

 

[Braveheart81]

Yes that's what he's saying. In the event of an injury you cannot replace a fit and available player. The player must be medically ruled out.

I'd hate to be the one announcing to the non first choice wingers that they had to draw straws to see who has their finger broken.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

1. Sio
2. Moore
3. Kepu
4. Simmons
5. Skelton
6. Fardy
7. Hooper
8. Palu
9. Phipps
10. Foley
11. Ashley-Cooper
12. Giteau
13. Kuridrani
14. Speight
15. Folau

1. Slipper
2. Polota-Nau
3. Holmes
4. Mumm
5. Douglas
6. McMahon
7. Pocock
8. McCalman
9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Mitchell
12. To'omua
13. Horne
14. Tomane
15. Beale

Ref: Toby Smith

would be a flogging

 

[Inside Shoulder]

a prop and a hooker getting injured between a team selection and kickoff is pretty rare based on my last 30 years of watching rugby. Not saying it couldn't happen but I don't ever recall it happening.

But that's because you've never followed a team with TPN in it: he gets a paper cut reading the team sheet

 

[Viking]

Yes that's what he's saying. In the event of an injury you cannot replace a fit and available player. The player must be medically ruled out.

Surely the compassionate grounds part means we could do it to avoid forfeiting.

 

[Lindommer]

No. I suspect that's there in case of family emergencies, death, sickness, etc. Let's recall Haddin's absences/withdrawals from the Oz test sides when his daughter's illnesses flared up.

 

[Lorenzo]

Okay then forget the change when the tournament starts thought.

But I'd bet that if Moore gets a 1 week injury that someone else would get replaced in the squad. Or are you saying that a player can only be replaced if it's for a medical or compassionate reason relating to them specifically?

er, yeah. Why would you be able to replace player x if player y is injured?

 

[Lorenzo]

Surely the compassionate grounds part means we could do it to avoid forfeiting.

lol no. It means if someone's relative dies, you can replace them.

It's not compassion for us fcking up our selections. lol

 

[Braveheart81]

Surely the compassionate grounds part means we could do it to avoid forfeiting.

I think the bit of the rules that would get you across the line is:

"In the absence of any mitigating circumstances this will result in:"

If you had two props injured in the 72 hours before a match, presumably that would be mitigating circumstances.

 

[Omar Comin']

er, yeah. Why would you be able to replace player x if player y is injured?

Well because maybe player x is not as crucial to the team as player y. In our case, if Moore gets injured for a week it would be ideal to replace the 5th winger.

I think it's a bit inflexible that you can't do that, I mean are world rugby trying to protect player's feelings or something? You should be able to replace players for any reason IMO.

 

[Lorenzo]

Then what would be the point in naming squads?

 

[Highlander35]

The idea is that your 31 should be all the players that you need, and the changes should only need to be made if the player genuinely can't continue through the tournament or a player needs to leave due to bereavement/familial illness etc.

It's slightly less rigid version of football and cricket world cup rules. I like it, it's meant to discourage stupid shit like this, I mean, if any player can be replaced for any reason, why not just have open squads? Or 45 man squads? Or whatever.