Wallabies vs Ireland - 3rd test - Saturday 23rd June 2018 - Sydney Football Stadium

[formerflanker]

Israel Folau will face a World Rugby disciplinary hearing for his conduct during two aerial contests in the Wallabies’ 20-16 loss to Ireland on Saturday.

Conduct? CONDUCT???
What sort of crazy world is rugby entering now, where HR blathering infests our official announcements?
Couldn't they just tell the truth and say "his aerial challenges".

 

[Dan54]

On the ref:

25 penalties all up. Could you fuck off m8. No one pays $200 to watch you not be good enough to actually play the sport but you still wanna be involved so you blow your god damn whistle every 20 seconds.

So which penalties should he not blow?? You know it's the players doing the wrong don't you ?

 

[Shiggins]

I have some knob head in Instagram trying to tell me dhp is crap and slow. Man he is annoying.

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[Lost]

So which penalties should he not blow?? You know it's the players doing the wrong don't you ?

Just one week of what ever the Kiwis get allowed each week would be magical if you can organise it.

Don’t have to go so far as having the ref blocking for us but, hey we will take it and shrug that humble Kiwi battler stuff and let the crowd roar their approval in the background.

Oh the irony as well that Moody gets buggerall for ironing out Beale and this weeks farce will see Folau get more time for a marginal contact and no opportunity to serve the time playing touch footy a la SBW. It is generally the gift that keeps giving. Must be a delight.


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[Shiggins]

If Izzy gets a ban for that in the air competition when his left arm got tangled with the Irish guy world rugby need to be burnt to the ground.

How does this get cited?

And this not ?

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[Dan54]

I have some knob head in Instagram trying to tell me dhp is crap and slow. Man he is annoying.

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He sounds like he knows very little about rugby Shiggins, DHP is pretty good player I would of thought in anybody's mind.

 

[Dan54]

Just one week of what ever the Kiwis get allowed each week would be magical if you can organise it.

Don’t have to go so far as having the ref blocking for us but, hey we will take it and shrug that humble Kiwi battler stuff and let the crowd roar their approval in the background.

Oh the irony as well that Moody gets buggerall for ironing out Beale and this weeks farce will see Folau get more time for a marginal contact and no opportunity to serve the time playing touch footy a la SBW. It is generally the gift that keeps giving. Must be a delight.


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Not sure what you on about Lost, I was genuinely asking Derpus which penalties he thought the ref shouldn't of blown. It is a question I always want answered when a anyone says let the game flow etc, stop blowing penalties.

 

[Grant NZ]

Just one week of what ever the Kiwis get allowed each week would be magical if you can organise it.

You got that last night - Aus had the exact same number of pens against them that NZ had last week.

 

[Lost]

You got that last night - Aus had the exact same number of pens against them that NZ had last week.

Certainly not the numbers that tell the tale.
The only thing that comes close to the certainty of the Kiwi’s getting the rub of the green every time was Javed Miandad batting in Pakistan. He was very relaxed about the likelihood of himself getting given out LBW. He played for a longtime and pretty sure it never happened.


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[Strewthcobber]

Thought we actually got the rub of a fair number of penalties last night. Two more Izzy challenges were very questionable, the penalty try against the post, Kerevi offside instead of Sexton, a couple of pococks turnover attempts where he was clearly on the ground.

And that's just the first half

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[Dismal Pillock]

Because the all blacks played champagne rugby to beat France 9-8 in rwc 2011.

It's call test rugby for a reason winning is all that counts and 3-0 is enough

That same I accept it's not the best brand of rugby

It in the Nh There isn't this constant thing about the brand , and trying to attract fans , the fans come anyway .

They don't need to be force fed that's absolute rubbish that is considering marketing atmosphere in stadiums here with background music etc etc

Our climate is a lot to do with it, and there is nothing we can do about that forward play will always be our strength cos of that

I accept australia play a lovely brand of rugby traditionally , I remember them in my youth as the Brazil of rugby especially before satellite tv they were always mystical campers lynagh etc and we got to see them once a year , but able to win with different styles and game plans is what makes rugby interesting , if we all played the same we might as well watch soccer or league . There are plenty 15-12 arm wrestles as interesting and as captivating as 39-37 and that's the beauty of it , every game is different

I love the fact a team can win 21-20 , 7 penalties to 4.

A tema can outhink a team,

John o neill already had one go ate trying to change the laws for the Australian market , the game might be struggling here but everywhere else in the world it's growing at a rate of knots

That's an awful lot of talky talky yet no mention of your t-shirt size.

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Regards,

--DP.

 

[Grant NZ]

Certainly not the numbers that tell the tale.
The only thing that comes close to the certainty of the Kiwi’s getting the rub of the green every time was Javed Miandad batting in Pakistan. He was very relaxed about the likelihood of himself getting given out LBW. He played for a longtime and pretty sure it never happened.


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Cool story bro.

 

[Derpus]

So which penalties should he not blow?? You know it's the players doing the wrong don't you ?

Just to name a few:

• Coleman 'offside' when both feet clearly behind the try-line
• Pinging Kepu for not rolling away, despite immediately rolling away
• Pinging Latu despite clearly supporting his own weight'
• The TMO taking 10 minutes to penalize Coleman for a completely legal clean-out.
• Folau getting yellow carded because a player got dropped by his own teammate.

Could go on.

I get it, but i don't think either side were 25 penalties worth of ill-discipline. Not even close.

 

[Istanbul]

Just to name a few:

• Coleman 'offside' when both feet clearly behind the try-line
• Pinging Kepu for not rolling away, despite immediately rolling away
• Pinging Latu despite clearly supporting his own weight'
• The TMO taking 10 minutes to penalize Coleman for a completely legal clean-out.
• Folau getting yellow carded because a player got dropped by his own teammate.

Could go on.

I get it, but i don't think either side were 25 penalties worth of ill-discipline. Not even close.

I agree - you could go the other way and watch a replay of the game and find an extra 50 penalties that could have been blown but at the end of the day what do people want to watch? I know I'd prefer watch rugby than watch the refs. The aim should be to blow as few penalties as possible to facilitate a fair flowing game.

 

[cyclopath]

That's an awful lot of talky talky yet no mention of your t-shirt size.

Please DM @Cyclopath your preferred t-shirt size **IMMEDIATELY**



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--DP.

Tried re-tasking the GAGR Textile Collective to T-shirts

But they only have one template, so all I got were these.

 

[Dan54]

On the Coleman offside, both feet were behind the tryline, but he was leaning on two hands that were in front of the goalpost, so is actually offside, look I agree it would be nice to to have game with less penalties, and I know I haven't seen all the ones you mention, but the ones I remember ie Coleman offside and Folau's were ubfortunately correct calls. Though I dislike the law that makes Folau's one, but he did grab the player in the air after he missed the ball, and we have all seen it get penalised numerous times in lineouts, I don't agree with it but the ref is correct.

 

[Dan54]

I agree - you could go the other way and watch a replay of the game and find an extra 50 penalties that could have been blown but at the end of the day what do people want to watch? I know I'd prefer watch rugby than watch the refs. The aim should be to blow as few penalties as possible to facilitate a fair flowing game.

Agree Istanbul, but would you be happy if ref didn't blow penalty and opposition scored against your team because of it.

 

[Quick Hands]

Just to name a few:

• Coleman 'offside' when both feet clearly behind the try-line
• Pinging Kepu for not rolling away, despite immediately rolling away
• Pinging Latu despite clearly supporting his own weight'
• The TMO taking 10 minutes to penalize Coleman for a completely legal clean-out.
• Folau getting yellow carded because a player got dropped by his own teammate.

Could go on.


I get it, but i don't think either side were 25 penalties worth of ill-discipline. Not even close.

Funny, because where I was sitting there were plenty of Wallaby supporters calling for penalties when they thought that the Irish were infringing (and applauding the ref when the whistle blew) and plenty of Irish supporters calling for penalties when they thought we were infringing (with the same applause when the whistle blew)

It reminds me of the parents who send their kids to a private school "for the discipline" but contest that same discipline when applied to their child.

The reality is that at test match level (particularly in a Tier 1 test) things happen so quickly, at such intensity that referees will miss some things and they'll see others from the perspective of where they are standing, rather than where the multiple cameras are positioned. At worst the events you're describing are 50/50 calls which went one way.

I'll bet if the ref blew less penalties and allowed significant offside play and/or slowing the ball down at the tackle, the same people howling about the number of penalties would be bagging the ref for not controlling the opposition tactics.

25 penalties in 80 minutes is barely one every four minutes, and I'd have thought that this would be what I would expect in a keenly contested match. One of the things that people say that like about rugby is that there is a contest for every possession. Every contest brings with it the temptation for one or both sides to seek and unfair advantage and thus infringe the laws. If you don't want penalties, then you need to remove all these contests for possession - otherwise you are going to be extremely disappointed in what you get.

I don't mind criticising referees where there is complete incompetence on display; i.e. a lack of knowledge of the laws and their correct application.

Nothing that I saw last night gives me anything to complain about in terms of the referee or his two assistants. The best part about being at the ground is that I didn't have to listen to the nonsense conversations with the TMO.

 

[Derpus]

^^^^
Obviously, in the heat of the moment you want any advantage your team can get.

Objectively, a game with less penalties is more entertaining than one with many.

 

[Quick Hands]

I agree - you could go the other way and watch a replay of the game and find an extra 50 penalties that could have been blown but at the end of the day what do people want to watch? I know I'd prefer watch rugby than watch the refs. The aim should be to blow as few penalties as possible to facilitate a fair flowing game.

Which would put us long term in the same position as league find themselves. As soon as refs are instructed to go easy on an aspect of the game, professional coaches sieze on it and coach their players to break a law that they know won't be enforced. This is one of the reasons that there are virtually no contests for possession in league anymore.

Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.