Wallabies v Springboks II, Allianz Stadium 7:35pm 03/09/22

[Dctarget]

Time to get this ball rolling, are Springboks going to be so confident as to naming their team on Monday afternoon last week? I'd be impressed if they did. You'd imagine Duane will be benched. They are flush for 8s, no need to keep a man past it. Is it Elton after Pollard? Not sure who I'd want there. Beyond Pollard's two uncharacteristic misses but Koroibete broke his ankles easily on the way to the tryline, Pollard barely got a hand on him. Probably Marx to start as well.

For Australia, you don't go changing much after that. Probably can't reward Folau's wayward throwing with another start so in comes Porecki. Fingers crossed Ikitau is fine and we can roll out the same 23.

 

[qwerty51]

I'll call it early. Willemse at 10. le Roux in at 15. Wiese at 8. Marx starting.

Steyn out of the 23.

 

[Dctarget]

I'll call it early. Willemse at 10. le Roux in at 15. Wiese at 8. Marx starting.

Steyn out of the 23.

Willemse is great from the internationals I've watched, does he play 10 too?

 

[Wilson]

Wouldn't be surprised to see some rotation through our available locks, but aside from Phillip starting again I'm not exactly sure what they'll go with. Bell is probably a chance to come back in ahead of Sio as well, though Sio didn't do anything wrong.

Is anyone else due back from injury now/soon or are the rest all long term outs?

 

[Viking]

I would think about bringing Campbell on the bench. Would be nice to give him some minutes and see how he goes.

 

[LeCheese]

Any update on Ikitau (shoulder?)?

 

[Wilson]

I would think about bringing Campbell on the bench. Would be nice to give him some minutes and see how he goes.

I'd like to see him get game time, but I think it only happens if we move away from a 6-2 split and I can't see them doing that.

 

[Wilson]

Any update on Ikitau (shoulder?)?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563828759073259521

As far as I'm aware there hasn't been anything official (even an acknowledgement of a potential injury/scans), so hopefully no news is good news

 

[RugbyReg]

You'd have to consider starting Kellaway at wing over Wright. He's clearly in our best 15.

Do they give Foley that spot on the bench? He covers flyhalf outwards. Might be a handy 'closer' given we've struggled there. I'd keep Folau as he was fantastic v Argentina and Porecki wasn't any better when he came on. TT's spot the most under question on the bench.

Actually - Jed Holloway? How do we reckon he's going? Adding a bit of balance to the lineout but it's not paying off. Leota may be worth another start but he's great impact off the bench. Holloway does provide options off the bench, so I'd go Leota at 6.

 

[Froggy]

I would start Porecki, Kellaway and Swain, Arnold, FF (Folau Fainga'a) and Wright to the bench. If Ikatau is out, Paisami to 13 and Foketi to 12. I think TT stays due to a lack of a suitable alternative, Bell to replace Sio, he's more dynamic, could be very useful in the closing stages. I don't accept his supposed scrummaging deficiency, it was the case when he was 19, that's 2 years ago. He doesn't boss a scrum, but he holds his own.

 

[Derpus]

Sorta tempting just to roll out the same 23 isn't it? Particularly given no injuries (have been announced at least).

 

[tragic]

I don’t think you can carry foley on a 6-2 bench. Only really covers 10/12. Lol has earned the right to start again. Hodge covers 10. I’d bring Kellaway into the starting lineup and have petaia as the bench utility - purely because he covers more positions that Wright. Rest of the bench unchanged except Swain to start and Arnold on the bench.

 

[Pfitzy]

Actually - Jed Holloway? How do we reckon he's going? Adding a bit of balance to the lineout but it's not paying off. Leota may be worth another start but he's great impact off the bench. Holloway does provide options off the bench, so I'd go Leota at 6.

I went back and watch the first half - here are the notes on Holloway:

Holloway
0-5
Ruck 1 (1 = first there)
Ruck 3 (3 = third there)
Ruck 3
Ruck 2
Ruck 1
Ruck 1

6-10
Run 0m after restart - settle 22m for box
Lineout
Run 0m
Run 0m turned over - no support.

11-15

16-20
Lineout knockon

21-25
Tackle on Pollard
Lineout receiver - stolen

26-30
Nothing - lot of scrums tho

31-35
Lineout take at the front
Ruck 2 but ineffective - turnover

36-40
With Phillip, disrupts the Bok maul right before Marika launches Mapimpi
Lineout at the front after the Fafslap.

So yeah, could be in line for a rest. He realigned OK off the ball but he's not prominent otherwise, and doing a bit of walking after the lost lineouts.

 

[eastman]

You'd have to consider starting Kellaway at wing over Wright. He's clearly in our best 15.

That's the great thing about the building some competition and depth in the outside backs - things aren't that clear cut

Wright was good on the weekend- I don't think he deserves to be dropped.

 

[eastman]

I would think about bringing Campbell on the bench. Would be nice to give him some minutes and see how he goes.

None of the outside backs deserve to be dropped and I don't think South Africa is the right team for Campbell to debt against. He seems like more of a 'debut against Tier 2' kinda guy.

 

[Rugby Head]

1 Slipper
2 Porecki
3 Ala'alatoa
4 Phillip
5 Arnold
6 Leota
7 McReight
8 Valetini
9 White
10 Lolesio
11 Koroibete
12 Paisami
13 Ikitau
14 Kellaway
15 Hodge

16 Fainga'a
17 Bell
18 Tupou
19 Swain
20 Holloway
21 Samu
22 McDermott
23 Petaia

Not that Wright had a bad game, I just think Kellaway has to be in the starting 15 and Petaia can cover more positions off the bench. Give Arnold another crack, he was certainly better than the first game. Swain provides more punch off the bench, his maul defence against tired bodies was unreal. Holloway really hasn't done much, let's see if he can have more impact off the bench.

 

[Joe Blow]

None of the outside backs deserve to be dropped and I don't think South Africa is the right team for Campbell to debt against. He seems like more of a 'debut against Tier 2' kinda guy.

All Blacks?

 

[dru]

All Blacks?

I'd suggest he has to bide his time.

 

[Joe Blow]

I'd suggest he has to bide his time.

I was only joking. Campbell is nowhere near a spot just yet. I’d guess he is behind 3-4 others

 

[dru]

I was only joking. Campbell is nowhere near a spot just yet. I’d guess he is behind 3-4 others

There are currently only two main contenders to 15. Hodge and Kellaway. Petaia and Wright have had the opportunity and proven to be better suited to 14. I don't think Jock is as far off as you are suggesting. But I doubt it will be during the Championship.