Mate any fringe player not playing in this current back row is improving by simply not playing and selective memories
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Wallabies v Pumas, GIO Stadium, Canberra, Sat 16th September
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The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
Could we turn this kid into a number 6?
http://www.rugby.com.au/videos/2017/09/14/eva-karpani-highlights
She is amazing. A good turn of speed too by the look of it.
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
Yeah, it's borked for me too.
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
jimmydubs, I meant Lorikeets, as in "Rainbow Lorikeets", as in our LGBTQI (vote "yes") national team!!
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Yarp, it's been that way for over a week now........
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
Its fantastic to finally get a win, but lets be honest. The Pumas are not the greatest finishing side in world rugby and they had us on the run for the first 50 minutes.
It was a good performance but there were still some of the same issues. Handling was poor again and the breakdown work was still not great. 6 continues to be an problem possy.
Scrum was much better as were the front rowers all around.
SA in the republic will be a big test
It was a good performance but there were still some of the same issues. Handling was poor again and the breakdown work was still not great. 6 continues to be an problem possy.
Scrum was much better as were the front rowers all around.
SA in the republic will be a big test
Micheal
Alan Cameron (40)
But doesn't the janitor know who employs him? I don't even know who the head honcho is. I just walk the halls.
ShtinaTina
Alex Ross (28)
Employ? I'm on the level below EPS contract. I just turn up and they let me do stuff.
Micheal
Alan Cameron (40)
Was simply continuing the janitor metaphor haha. I just want the old GAGR back!
notapatrioticboneinme
Sydney Middleton (9)
Methinks viewers do not appreciate Simmons efforts / ability elsewhere and we're only talking about him because of that run and beautiful off-load. Admittedly the last time he had an opportunity to run in a similar position was when he played 6, yours truly, definitely not a Queenslander
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
The Wallabies played well in the last 40. Let me preface my next comments with that. They played well in that 40 minutes against the opposition they had.
1) The Argentines are a 40 minute side. In every game I have watched they have played very good rugby for 40 minutes and then gradually fall to bit. They struggle without Crevy on the field and perhaps that is why the other old hard head JM Laguizamon comes about the time Crevy goes off. Not to take away from the players they have starting but imagine if they had their other first class players available such as Hernandez and a few front rowers in Euroland.
2) Hanigan is not lightweight, he is the same weight in terms of mass as other backrowers of his position (apart from a couple of behemoths) what he is desperately lacking is technique and application. He is a modern Richard Brown or McCalman. All action and no impact. He makes lots of tackles to have good numbers, but there are glaring misses and those tackles he makes are invariably passive. None of the reasons for his selection stack up. The lineout, scrum and breakdown are weak, until the opposition is buggered.
3) The scrum worries me still. This Argentine scrum as I alluded to above is nowhere near its historical best and is without significant members such as Ramero Herera, Marcos Ayerza.
4) Tactics are still a major worry with restarts and exits being a massive concern, as they have been for two years. I seriously doubt the coaching intelligence of the Wallabies that sees Foley still the primary exit kicker when Hodge, Beale or DHP is/are in the team.
5) The crazy persistence of the run everything game plan. A few times Beale kicked for territory and we saw the shadows of a complete game plan. Against a solid effective defence like the ABs (who got their shit together in style last night), England and even Scotland the run everything game plan, especially when the exist strategy is Foley kicking from the in-goal, is just a recipe for being in your own half under pressure for the whole game. That coupled with a defensive structure which appears happy to concede metres on the fringes and rely on scrambling defenders to cover is a recipe for conceding points or penalties.
My conclusion is that the players have played well with the tools given them and even if they could put together a 80 minute performance the tools are fundamentally flawed in the areas of a)selection (especially at 6 and replacement), b) inconsistency in selection (identify a locking combination and stick with it FFS excluding injury), c) tactics - how about addressing the glaring issues surrounding exit strategy. How about developing a more balanced attacking structure tactic. d) defence - kudos to the players for showing the commitment and effort to scramble and dig deep, but a lot of that energy and effort is wasted as the structure is allowing the breaks to be made in the first place, and fatigue from that effort leads to other bad decisions and further errors and expenditure.
I suspect that with the tactics and structures we are seeing this is the ceiling of performance that we can expect. Yes it has been very good for 40 minutes three weeks running and the players are doing their part with admirable effort. I just don't think they are being well served before they take the field. My General Melchard video deserves another posting to explain the Wallaby's coaching tactical meetings.
1) The Argentines are a 40 minute side. In every game I have watched they have played very good rugby for 40 minutes and then gradually fall to bit. They struggle without Crevy on the field and perhaps that is why the other old hard head JM Laguizamon comes about the time Crevy goes off. Not to take away from the players they have starting but imagine if they had their other first class players available such as Hernandez and a few front rowers in Euroland.
2) Hanigan is not lightweight, he is the same weight in terms of mass as other backrowers of his position (apart from a couple of behemoths) what he is desperately lacking is technique and application. He is a modern Richard Brown or McCalman. All action and no impact. He makes lots of tackles to have good numbers, but there are glaring misses and those tackles he makes are invariably passive. None of the reasons for his selection stack up. The lineout, scrum and breakdown are weak, until the opposition is buggered.
3) The scrum worries me still. This Argentine scrum as I alluded to above is nowhere near its historical best and is without significant members such as Ramero Herera, Marcos Ayerza.
4) Tactics are still a major worry with restarts and exits being a massive concern, as they have been for two years. I seriously doubt the coaching intelligence of the Wallabies that sees Foley still the primary exit kicker when Hodge, Beale or DHP is/are in the team.
5) The crazy persistence of the run everything game plan. A few times Beale kicked for territory and we saw the shadows of a complete game plan. Against a solid effective defence like the ABs (who got their shit together in style last night), England and even Scotland the run everything game plan, especially when the exist strategy is Foley kicking from the in-goal, is just a recipe for being in your own half under pressure for the whole game. That coupled with a defensive structure which appears happy to concede metres on the fringes and rely on scrambling defenders to cover is a recipe for conceding points or penalties.
My conclusion is that the players have played well with the tools given them and even if they could put together a 80 minute performance the tools are fundamentally flawed in the areas of a)selection (especially at 6 and replacement), b) inconsistency in selection (identify a locking combination and stick with it FFS excluding injury), c) tactics - how about addressing the glaring issues surrounding exit strategy. How about developing a more balanced attacking structure tactic. d) defence - kudos to the players for showing the commitment and effort to scramble and dig deep, but a lot of that energy and effort is wasted as the structure is allowing the breaks to be made in the first place, and fatigue from that effort leads to other bad decisions and further errors and expenditure.
I suspect that with the tactics and structures we are seeing this is the ceiling of performance that we can expect. Yes it has been very good for 40 minutes three weeks running and the players are doing their part with admirable effort. I just don't think they are being well served before they take the field. My General Melchard video deserves another posting to explain the Wallaby's coaching tactical meetings.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Yep - exactly the same for me. A couple of other new annoyances as well.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Gnostic, I heartily agree with every point you've made. But particularly in relation to the No 6 spot, I note in an above post there is some suggestion Cheika might consider Tui for the 6 spot. I think that could be a move well worth having a look at. Tui was really strong playing for Brisbane City today and appears to have the skills, size and pace to handle the 6 spot. But even as good as Tui was, Matt Philip was better in his game for the Spirit v the Rams. He also has the skills, size and pace to play 6, as demonstrated today on a number of occasions he broke the defensive line and then set up his support players to make more ground or score. He had a belter.
jimmydubs
Dave Cowper (27)
I understood Ive just been waiting for a chance to compare that Jersey to a budgerigar.
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