Wallabies v Japan 25 Oct

[Major Tom]

Not sure why Schmidt wouldn’t bring on a fresh lonergan though.

 

[Crashy]

It’s Gordon by the way…

 

[Wilson]

Not sure why Schmidt wouldn’t bring on a fresh lonergan though.

Gordon was well and truly running the game at that point. Had it been an 8 point lead he probably would've, but with 4 points in it he wasn't going to fuck with that. It was the right call.

 

[Brumby Runner]

or perhaps the coaching staff saw something and didn’t think it necessary to consult with you first?

If he isn't in the squad for next week, then I'll also think it was a bizarre selection. Captain one week and dropped the next and probably in the following tests too.

 

[Elfster]

Wow. He box kicked to touch on the 50 and into opposition half multiple times. Something our 10s can't do from a normal kick. Made a tackle at the end of the game that probs won us the game. Managed the game well. I've never been a big Gordan fan as he isn't a world class 9 and will never be but he is our best option at the moment

Perhaps I was a bit harsh.

Or expecting better. But, as you say, he might be the best we have at the moment.
And in reference to an earlier post, I didn’t see all the game.

But my criticism is also biased by my dislike of box kicks.
A loss against New Zealand when one N White box kicked away when we were in front.

But also back to Gordon- he should not box kick. My perception of him is more of a runner. He did seem a bit out of sorts today.
But he wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there!

 

[dru]

Open to it. Said it during the week he’s a safe, low error option who would follow a plan and shift the ball. More likely to play 10 for Aus than the Force.

I went through seasons at the Reds saying that Stewart was a great rugby player but not nat's a'hole of a 10. I pretty much stand by it.

BUT at international level, there aught be a bigger emphasis on D and organisation. I think Stewart is not such a bad call. He does get his head into rucks that many 7's don't manage. Great skill but not high on the list of key fly half skills. Still I think he could follow a game plan.

Doubt Stewart will get much of a chance outside AusC (like today) but he is a rare player who might be better at international level than he is a Super rugby.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Most of those were available for selection. Complete arrogance to throw this team out for a test match

Might have worked if Schmidt had put his missing starters on the bench to shore up the second half.

 

[dru]

Perhaps I was a bit harsh.

Or expecting better. But, as you say, he might be the best we have at the moment.
And in reference to an earlier post, I didn’t see all the game.

But my criticism is also biased by my dislike of box kicks.
A loss against New Zealand when one N White box kicked away when we were in front.

But also back to Gordon- he should not box kick. My perception of him is more of a runner. He did seem a bit out of sorts today.
But he wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there!

I don't think so.

I completely agree that Gordon ran that game. No doubt at all. But this stuff about him making 30m to touch with a box (claimed repeatedly) ... look I watched that game, seriously did I just miss this?

I actually think that Gordon is an underrated player and imo makes a solid argument for top two #9s in the WB squad. But I wouldn't give it to him on kicking from that game. I'd still give him 3 points if someone is putting up a 3-2-1 thread.

 

[Brumby Runner]

He isn't throwing to one jumper. Shit happens and he needs to deal with it.

I'm not disagreeing Dru, but I think there were at least two lineouts lost with Nasser the thrower. How many did we lose with Pollard throwing, do you know?

 

[Brumby Runner]

Gordan the best Aussie tonight.

Not in my book. He did all the play making, and just look at how woeful that was.

 

[Yoda]

Perhaps I was a bit harsh.

Or expecting better. But, as you say, he might be the best we have at the moment.
And in reference to an earlier post, I didn’t see all the game.

But my criticism is also biased by my dislike of box kicks.
A loss against New Zealand when one N White box kicked away when we were in front.

But also back to Gordon- he should not box kick. My perception of him is more of a runner. He did seem a bit out of sorts today.
But he wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there!

It's Schmid's plan. Do you think Gordon just box kicks because he feels like it? Want to blame someone, blame Schmidt. Gordon was my best on ground.

 

[Yoda]

Not in my book. He did all the play making, and just look at how woeful that was.

BR. You of all people should realise that is want Schmidt wants.

 

[Brumby Runner]

From what I saw the main thing is that Jake Gordon should not play again.
He must be a plant by V’landys (the horse racing guy) (the horse racing guy) or heavily protected by the Watatah’s mafia.
Shit box kick after shit box kick.
Nothing else to add to the game.
He managed to make league’s six tackles and kick sublimely creative.

I was not impressed either.

 

[Jagman]

Anyone know which 3 weeks in November fall within the official test window? Gonna need Skelton and Ikitau back.

 

[Brumby Runner]

For what it's worth, which may be nothing, I thought Paisami and Tizzano were our best. In a 3, 2, 1 rating I would put Lonergan in for 1 point. He didn't besmirch the jersey nor trash his reputation as all the others did. And we can put Joe Schmidt at the top of that list.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Anyone know which 3 weeks in November fall within the official test window? Gonna need Skelton and Ikitau back.

French game is outside the window.

Edit - this is actually wrong

 

[Filipo Daugunu]

French game is outside the window

So do we get Hooper and Ikitau for the England game? Seems unfair if all of England's players from the Prem are available for selection but we cant pick our two.

 

[Strewthcobber]

So do we get Hooper and Ikitau for the England game? Seems unfair if all of England's players from the Prem are available for selection but we cant pick our two.

Edit.

England game is actually outside of the window. Hooper and Ikitau won't be selected

 

[rugbyAU]

Anyone know which 3 weeks in November fall within the official test window? Gonna need Skelton and Ikitau back.

Italy, Ireland, France

 

[rugbyAU]

For what it's worth, which may be nothing, I thought Paisami and Tizzano were our best. In a 3, 2, 1 rating I would put Lonergan in for 1 point. He didn't besmirch the jersey nor trash his reputation as all the others did. And we can put Joe Schmidt at the top of that list.

He didn't play