Wallabies v Italians
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Whit's passing on Saturday night was beautifully accurate, as ever. But he seems to have lost a bit in the physical stakes, I can't recall him challenging the opposition once with a well-timed run. But his passes, lovely to watch.
The urgency and physicality Burgess brings to the team is exactly what Deans wants. If only we could tack Whits' passing on to Burgess' physicality and speed.
The urgency and physicality Burgess brings to the team is exactly what Deans wants. If only we could tack Whits' passing on to Burgess' physicality and speed.
This debate will obviously never stop.
NTA - I saw a similar comment in the Blog and can't figure out how you get there watching them in the same match.
Even though Whits was for me the best BaaBaa on the field, he still didn't shade Burgess on Sat.
Look at the hit Burgess put on SBW (a game changer I reckon) the breaks he made and the speed at the breakdown. His passing was also more than adequate.
NTA - I saw a similar comment in the Blog and can't figure out how you get there watching them in the same match.
Even though Whits was for me the best BaaBaa on the field, he still didn't shade Burgess on Sat.
Look at the hit Burgess put on SBW (a game changer I reckon) the breaks he made and the speed at the breakdown. His passing was also more than adequate.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Firstly, it wasn't a hit. Secondly, Burgess had help - part of SBW's momentum was stopped by another player getting him around the hips. It was a good tackle but hardly a defining moment. If you reckon the Wallabies would have lost after conceding first points against that rabble, hand in your yellow scarf and passport, and go to NZ 
Who was there to take the quick taps for the BB try?
Who was there dragging Mitchell down as he scored?
Who was giving McAlister enough accurate ball to ship onto SBW as hospital passes?
Burgess wasn't bad, but he was no Whits.
Who was there to take the quick taps for the BB try?
Who was there dragging Mitchell down as he scored?
Who was giving McAlister enough accurate ball to ship onto SBW as hospital passes?
Burgess wasn't bad, but he was no Whits.
Cutter
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
NTA said:Firstly, it wasn't a hit. Secondly, Burgess had help - part of SBW's momentum was stopped by another player getting him around the hips. It was a good tackle but hardly a defining moment. If you reckon the Wallabies would have lost after conceding first points against that rabble, hand in your yellow scarf and passport, and go to NZ
Who was there to take the quick taps for the BB try?
Who was there dragging Mitchell down as he scored?
Who was giving McAlister enough accurate ball to ship onto SBW as hospital passes?
Burgess wasn't bad, but he was no Whits.
Whits made the tackle on Mitchell but the outcome is the same as if he hadnt been there. Burgess' tackle on SBW was a corker. Once a player like that is through the first line of defence they are very hard to stop. SBW wasnt just stopped, he was driven back and, ultimately, it forced a turnover. I agree with Gagger that those type of things can be game changing.
NTA said:If you reckon the Wallabies would have lost after conceding first points against that rabble, hand in your yellow scarf and passport, and go to NZ
Hehe, no the Wallabies would have still won, but with that try the BaaBaas would have had their dander up and proven more of a handfull no doubt, probably giving us a scare in the first half. Queue the usual scrappy wobble in the first game.
Instead their big man got put on his arse and we ended up scoring down the other end. From that I reckon it was a game changer, not necessarily a game winner
Biffo
Ken Catchpole (46)
Gagger said:NTA said:If you reckon the Wallabies would have lost after conceding first points against that rabble, hand in your yellow scarf and passport, and go to NZ
Hehe, no the Wallabies would have still won, but with that try the BaaBaas would have had their dander up and proven more of a handfull no doubt, probably giving us a scare in the first half. Queue the usual scrappy wobble in the first game.
Instead their big man got put on his arse and we ended up scoring down the other end. From that I reckon it was a game changer, not necessarily a game winner
I thought Burgess's tackle was terrific. Equally terrific was Williams' offload in the tackle, which was caught by a teammate. Pretty hard to ascribe a later turnover or Wallaby try to Burgess' tackle.
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Biffo said:Gagger said:NTA said:If you reckon the Wallabies would have lost after conceding first points against that rabble, hand in your yellow scarf and passport, and go to NZ
Hehe, no the Wallabies would have still won, but with that try the BaaBaas would have had their dander up and proven more of a handfull no doubt, probably giving us a scare in the first half. Queue the usual scrappy wobble in the first game.
Instead their big man got put on his arse and we ended up scoring down the other end. From that I reckon it was a game changer, not necessarily a game winner
I thought Burgess's tackle was terrific. Equally terrific was Williams' offload in the tackle, which was caught by a teammate. Pretty hard to ascribe a later turnover or Wallaby try to Burgess' tackle.
It was a great tackle, but SBW was running far too upright - he should have been diving for the line from where he was. I guess he wanted to stroll over and put the ball down nonchanlantly.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
I thought he was too upright as well, but on second viewing I believe it was because he just stepped (AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)?) back on the inside. Burgess just hit him a the right time.
NTA
Burgess was better than Whits, but Whits is still good.
I am looking forward to seeing Genia, who I believe has both the running and passing game, with pretty good front on defence thrown in there.
NTA
Burgess was better than Whits, but Whits is still good.
I am looking forward to seeing Genia, who I believe has both the running and passing game, with pretty good front on defence thrown in there.
disco
Chilla Wilson (44)
I wouldn't mind seeing AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 or the wing next week but it depends on injuries & who we rest as I know that whatever side runs out against France it will be our strongest so we may as well make a few changes against Italy in game 2.
Likewise, will he be fit for the Tri-Nations? If yes do you thinks he's a chance of making the squad or will Deans wait for an injury or EOYT.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Funny how, whenever someone on here defends Burgess, a line of people will form to tell you what Burgess did wrong e.g. he still fucked up a few passes in this game and probably didn't hit the mark as well as Benn Robinson in terms of % ruck ball making its target.
Yet, when you try to defend someone who, at the peak of his powers, was still twice as good as Burgess has been so far, they'll drag you down there too ...
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Lot of short poppies around here.
Yet, when you try to defend someone who, at the peak of his powers, was still twice as good as Burgess has been so far, they'll drag you down there too ...
:nta:
Lot of short poppies around here.
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