Wallabies v All Blacks, Saturday 21st October, Suncorp, Brisbane
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Ward Prentice (10)
Fairly heavy to begin with in the first half but dropped off fairly quickly. Pitch seems to drain fairly well. I don't know why but last two seasons Australian teams are responding better to wet weather conditions.
biggsy
Chilla Wilson (44)
Wallabies always under pressure in that case.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Coleman, no doubt, was just intrigued to watch how someone hitting a ruck could be so ineffectual. Was one of those rucks early in the game when he tried to get Cane (I think) off his feet and didn't make any impression on him at all? Turnover to the ABs.
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Andrew Slack (58)
I get you don’t rate Simmons, but the whole forward pack was shit at effectively cleaning out in the first half. Coleman missed a few himself. Despite the result, it was an are area the ABs were much better at than us.
Hooper is generally pretty good, but otherwise it is an area we have huge room for improvement.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
have to say I not really a fan of Suncorp pitch, it seems to cut up a little. mind you it probably seems a bit worse than it is because generally all other fields that major games are played on generally are so bloody good these days.
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Coleman had 13 runs for 9meters and 6 tackles.
Stats are a good reference, but don’t paint the full picture.
Comments about impact at rucks is subjective and difficult.
What Tui did when he came on was provide a running option for Genia almost every time the wallabies had started making some momentum, sure he didn’t make any great line breaks but he kept the momentum going and stopped the All Blacks from completely resetting their defensive line.
Run metres are a junk statistic.
Take these two case studies from the weekend:
- Rob Simmons takes a hit-up off the back of a successful Wallaby wide raid. The All Black defence is back-pedalling and there are holes near the ruck. Simmons hits one of these and makes 5m, but I'd argue it was a fairly upright, weak carry and he should have made 10m (though he had a decent game overall).
- Tui gets the ball behind the gain line in about the 72nd minute, with limited support and two advancing AB defenders. He manages to hold his ground and stay up for a split second longer, so his support reaches him and we get relatively quick ball. He's made 0m but considering the potential outcome, it was a great effort.
So there's a 5m difference in run metres there, but I'd argue Tui's was a far better carry.
i think the eye test is far more valuable when assessing forward performance in attack, and to me Tui passed it with flying colours.
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Take these two case studies from the weekend:
- Rob Simmons takes a hit-up off the back of a successful Wallaby wide raid. The All Black defence is back-pedalling and there are holes near the ruck. Simmons hits one of these and makes 5m, but I'd argue it was a fairly upright, weak carry and he should have made 10m (though he had a decent game overall).
- Tui gets the ball behind the gain line in about the 72nd minute, with limited support and two advancing AB defenders. He manages to hold his ground and stay up for a split second longer, so his support reaches him and we get relatively quick ball. He's made 0m but considering the potential outcome, it was a great effort.
So there's a 5m difference in run metres there, but I'd argue Tui's was a far better carry.
i think the eye test is far more valuable when assessing forward performance in attack, and to me Tui passed it with flying colours.
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KOB1987
John Eales (66)
Yes, a lot of that was to do with the pressure they were copping though. Plus you lot are happy enough to gloat when we play shit.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
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John Eales (66)
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