Wallabies of the Future

[RoffsChoice]

Discussion over at the Wallabies Watch and 30 man squad had a few mentions to Kyle Godwin. I off handedly said that he and Tapuai might be the Giteau and Barnes of the future (Solid 12s).

This got me thinking - who are the young Australians (25 or under) who, in four years, would be constant contenders for a Wallaby spot?

 

[RoffsChoice]

Ages listed are as they would be at the end of the season. I've assumed left wing is more offensive and right wing is more defensive.

Loose Head Prop
Scott Sio (21), Salesi Manu (22)
Hooker
Siliva Siliva (21), Nathan Charles (24), James Hanson (24)
Tight Head Prop
Paul Alo-Emile (21), Tetera Faulkner (25), James Slipper (24), Paddy Ryan (24)
Loose Head Lock
Cadeyrn Neville (24), Hugh Pyle (24), Rob Simmons (24)
Tight Head Lock
Sam Carter (23), Luke Jones (22), Kane Douglas (24)
Blindside Flaner
Ita Vaea (24), Angus Cottrell (23), Ben McCalman (25), Ed Quirk (21)
Openside Flanker
Colby Fainga'a (22), Chris Alcock (25), Liam Gill (21), Michael Hooper (21)
8
Jake Schatz (23), Lopeti Timani (22)
Scrumhalf
Ian Prior (22), Nic White (23), Nick Phipps (24), Nic Stirzaker (22), Will Genia (25), Nic Frisby (20), Matt Lucas (21)
Flyhalf
Matt To'omua (23), Zack Holmes (23), Quade Cooper (25), Jono Lance (23), Bernard Foley (23)
Left Wing
Joe Tomane (23), Alfi Mafi (25), Luke Morahan (23), Chris Feauai-Sautia (19), Peter Betham (24), Tom Kingston (22), Ben Volavola (22)
Inside Centre
Christian Lealiifano (25), Kyle Godwin (21), Mike Harris (25), Ben Tapuai (24)
Outside Centre
Tevita Kuridrani (22), Mitch Inman (25), Rob Horne (23)
Right Wing
Pat McCabe (24), Henry Speight (25), James O’Connor (23), Ed Stubbs (24), Dom Shipperly (22)
Fullback
Robbie Coleman (22), Jesse Mogg (23), Kurtley Beale (24), Israel Folau (24)

 

[GaffaCHinO]

Salesi manu for LHP

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[RoffsChoice]

Salesi manu for LHP

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Added, thanks

 

[No4918]

Let's go uncapped and under 25 if talking about the future. Quick team off the top of my head.

Sio
?
PAE
Jones
Carter
Browning
? Any other superstar 7's coming through?
Schatz
M Lucas
To'omua
Folau
Godwin
CFS
Kingston
Mogg


At hooker and 7 the big 4 are already capped and not a big fan of the other options at the moment. Not sure who is coming through to fill those spots. Most wingers worth a bar got a run for the Wobs last year so not sure who else there is bar Speight who I left out as I am not sure on age and eligibility.

Edit: added Folau as it will happen whether I like it or not.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

Let's go uncapped and under 25 if talking about the future. Quick team off the top of my head.

Sio
?
PAE
Jones
Carter
Browning
? Any other superstar 7's coming through?
Schatz
M Lucas
To'omua
?
Godwin
CFS
Kingston
Mogg


At hooker and 7 the big 4 are already capped and not a big fan of the other options at the moment. Not sure who is coming through to fill those spots. Most wingers worth a bar got a run for the Wobs last year so not sure who else there is bar Speight who I left out as I am not sure on age and eligibility.

I like the look of the team. at 6 i would have cottrell atm he is a great young player and in front of browning.

You could have charles at hooker think he is only 23-24 and has shown alot the last 2 years.

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[No4918]

I did consider Charles but it wasn't his best year before the injury. Not sure that I consider him a future wallaby to be honest.

Since this is a future discussion I picked Browning over the other 6 options and generally went with the youngest player of those 'eligible'.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Ages listed are as they would be at the end of the season. I've assumed left wing is more offensive and right wing is more defensive.

Loose Head Prop
Scott Sio (21), Salesi Manu (22)
Hooker
Siliva Siliva (21), Nathan Charles (24), James Hanson (24)
Tight Head Prop
Paul Alo-Emile (21), Tetera Faulkner (25), James Slipper (24), Paddy Ryan (24)
Loose Head Lock
Cadeyrn Neville (24), Hugh Pyle (24), Rob Simmons (24)
Tight Head Lock
Sam Carter (23), Luke Jones (22), Kane Douglas (24)
Blindside Flaner
Ita Vaea (24), Angus Cottrell (23), Ben McCalman (25), Ed Quirk (21)
Openside Flanker
Colby Fainga'a (22), Chris Alcock (25), Liam Gill (21), Michael Hooper (21)
8
Jake Schatz (23), Lopeti Timani (22)
Scrumhalf
Ian Prior (22), Nic White (23), Nick Phipps (24), Nic Stirzaker (22), Will Genia (25), Nic Frisby (20), Matt Lucas (21)
Flyhalf
Matt To'omua (23), Zack Holmes (23), Quade Cooper (25), Jono Lance (23), Bernard Foley (23)
Left Wing
Joe Tomane (23), Alfi Mafi (25), Luke Morahan (23), Chris Feauai-Sautia (19), Peter Betham (24), Tom Kingston (22), Ben Volavola (22)
Inside Centre
Christian Lealiifano (25), Kyle Godwin (21), Mike Harris (25), Ben Tapuai (24)
Outside Centre
Tevita Kuridrani (22), Mitch Inman (25), Rob Horne (23)
Right Wing
Pat McCabe (24), Henry Speight (25), James O’Connor (23), Ed Stubbs (24), Dom Shipperly (22)
Fullback
Robbie Coleman (22), Jesse Mogg (23), Kurtley Beale (24), Israel Folau (24)

Interestingly you left out Brumbies Pocock and Palmer.

 

[tigerland12]

Luke Jones and Hugh Pyle are both awesome.

I have no idea why Deans doesn't want to give them a gig. I rate them higher, or at least on par with, Timani and Douglas, and Simmons (although he's been good recently)

 

[tranquility]

Siliva is a star in the making, one of would have thought.

 

[Forcefield]

I reckon Junior Rasolea would make a good fist of 13. He looked good against the Crusaders and will only improve with experience. I don't rate Horne or Inman at all.

Has Siliva played this year? When he was with the Force Academy he looked good but had butter fingers.

 

[Slim 293]

Has Siliva played this year? When he was with the Force Academy he looked good but had butter fingers.

Siliva started for the Brumbies a couple of weeks ago, and has come off the bench for most, if not all matches.........

He's also just re-signed with the Brumbies for another couple of years.........

 

[Forcefield]

Looked good?

 

[Slim 293]

Needs improving, but not the worst debut by any means.........

 

[Brumbieman]

Luke Jones and Hugh Pyle are both awesome.

I have no idea why Deans doesn't want to give them a gig. I rate them higher, or at least on par with, Timani and Douglas, and Simmons (although he's been good recently)

Maybe because they're crucial players in a Rebels team that is a shambles. Doesn't exactly reflect well on their ability to win the big moments and drag the team along with them.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

Maybe because they're crucial players in a Rebels team that is a shambles. Doesn't exactly reflect well on their ability to win the big moments and drag the team along with them.

Because the Tahs with one more win than the rebels are doing so much better.

 

[Dumbledore]

Maybe because they're crucial players in a Rebels team that is a shambles. Doesn't exactly reflect well on their ability to win the big moments and drag the team along with them.

They're playing under a pretty average coaching team in fairness. They've both had strong individual seasons as part of a flailing team. At times there's only so much one player can do. In saying that, Jones won't get a shot for the Wallabies until he can fix his hands. He turns the ball over in contact like it's cool, which is a huge shame because he's just about the hardest working lock in the competition.

At blindside or 8 you should throw Nigel Ah-Wong in there, looks like he could be anything.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

They're playing under a pretty average coaching team in fairness. They've both had strong individual seasons as part of a flailing team. At times there's only so much one player can do. In saying that, Jones won't get a shot for the Wallabies until he can fix his hands. He turns the ball over in contact like it's cool, which is a huge shame because he's just about the hardest working lock in the competition.

At blindside or 8 you should throw Nigel Ah-Wong in there, looks like he could be anything.

Yeah like a wing

 

[Dumbledore]

Yeah like a wing

Hasn't stopped Higgers.

 

[fatprop]

I still think Cam Crawford will be very good, especially when he gets an opportunity at 15. Wallaby? well who knows, but he was/is as good at SS level as a lot of current Wobs. He is also 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) & 98 kg (15 st 6 lb)

edit: probably just put the mock on the guy