Wallabies 2025

[Slim 293]

Unfortunately I think JAS is going to get pipped by Henry Pollock for the award...

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Pollock/Pillock is a wonderful player. Shame he seems like such a twat on the field.

Difference in being notorious and just being a preformative bell end. He's gone down the latter at this stage.

 

[JRugby2]

Unfortunately I think JAS is going to get pipped by Henry Pollock for the award...

I feel Pollock will be the peoples choice - but Hooker's been great for South Africa too.

 

[JRugby2]

Pollock/Pillock is a wonderful player. Shame he seems like such a twat on the field.

Difference in being notorious and just being a preformative bell end. He's gone down the latter at this stage.

He's certainly performative, but at the same time he's backing it up. Genuinely an impact player.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Absolutely he is. Great player, just gone past the character threshold into dickhead territory on the field wise.

 

[JRugby2]

Don't mind there being another villain. It's easier to support the Wallabies if that support fuelled by hatred and negativity for opposition players I have a parasocial relationship with.

 

[Major Tom]

How much game time has he had? He’s a talent alright but he’s coming off the bench.

 

[rugbyAU]

111 minutes

 

[JRugby2]

How much game time has he had? He’s a talent alright but he’s coming off the bench.

Started a few times for the Lions too

 

[Major Tom]

Started a few times for the Lions too

He started those game against provincial clubs. Not really the same.

 

[Red Runner]

Started a few times for the Lions too

not in tests. Only tests count

 

[JRugby2]

He started those game against provincial clubs. Not really the same.

I thought those we're considered Lion's caps? Might be a loop hole.

Either way, I would argue he's been more impactful in his minutes for England, than Su has been for us.

Criteria: This award is open to all men’s 15s players who have played no more than one year of international rugby. Voting is assessed on international test match performances.

 

[Major Tom]

111 minutes

Yeah see that’s not enough for me. I think you also have to started. Tbf he’s 20 and has cracked into England’s 23 which is a fair effort.

 

[rugbyAU]

JAS has played just over a year

 

[Braveheart81]

Either way, I would argue he's been more impactful in his minutes for England, than Su has been for us.

Is this on the basis that none of our players are impactful?

He's our equal leading try scorer for the season and has been pretty pivotal in the few games we've won.

We're obviously paying him a lot but people are treating him like he should be the best player in the team each week which seems like an expectation problem more than a performance issue.

 

[JRugby2]

JAS has played just over a year

Unless it's a loose window, it must be from November - November each year (or there abouts)

 

[Red Runner]

JAS has played just over a year

no he hasn't. Judging starts from EOYT last year to now

 

[Major Tom]

I thought those we're considered Lion's caps? Might be a loop hole.

Either way, I would argue he's been more impactful in his minutes for England, than Su has been for us.

I’d argue he hasn’t played enough to gauge his impact. He’s done 2 very good things off the bench in the last few matches that have swung a match. I’d argue that JAS has done more. I’m not sure about the other top. Holland has been very very good.

 

[rugbyAU]

Is this on the basis that none of our players are impactful?

He's our equal leading try scorer for the season and has been pretty pivotal in the few games we've won.

We're obviously paying him a lot but people are treating him like he should be the best player in the team each week which seems like an expectation problem more than a performance issue.

4 tries as equal highest isnt saying much

 

[Major Tom]

4 tries as equal highest isnt saying much

How many broken tackles?
How many defenders beaten?
How many metres gained?
JAS has played more games so he’s had way more involvement and definitely had more errors. Not really a fair comparison imo.