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John Thornett (49)
No Skelton for the wales series
Wallabies 2024
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John Solomon (38)
I don’t think it’s a monstrous loss- especially given the type of rugby is likely to be more expansive outside of the World Cup paradigm.
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John Solomon (38)
Are we talking about Skelton here or are you just generally venting?
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Greg Davis (50)
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Bill McLean (32)
Darby Lancaster looks to have the goods
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Tim Horan (67)
Yeah I'm excited for him too but probably should get a Super game or 20 before Wallabies come knocking.
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David Codey (61)
Maybe in 2025. Hasn't played a game of Super Rugby yet so let's see.
Fantastic prospect with size and speed. Was interesting to read Darby had hit the 10m per second mark they use to assess speed in the 7s program. Corey Toole, Henry Palmer, Hadley Tonga are at that mark but Darby is 10kg heavier and 10cm taller.
Fantastic prospect with size and speed. Was interesting to read Darby had hit the 10m per second mark they use to assess speed in the 7s program. Corey Toole, Henry Palmer, Hadley Tonga are at that mark but Darby is 10kg heavier and 10cm taller.
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David Codey (61)
Post by rugby bloke on Instagram about 8 players that "should debut" for the Wallabies next year.
- Max Burey. At first I thought no way but it's not a bad shout with because of our current situation. A lot will depend on the Force winning games and Pasitoa. He won't win us a WC but we're a bit lost at 10 still with a lot of kids coming through behind Gordon. Noah is an obvious recall chance to get in the way.
- Josh Flook. Think this is pretty obvious. Wallabies lacked versatility and smarts. Ticks a lot of boxes and seems a leader as well.
- Max Jorgensen. Would have already if not for the broken leg. He'll be blooded for sure.
- Corey Toole. With Mark leaving I think he's definitely in a side at some stage.
- Tom Horton. I think we are in some deep trouble if he's wearing gold. A small hooker who can't throw (shouldn't count against him). He's got energy but it's a no for me.
- Harry Potter. Think this is another good chance. Another versatile back. If fit he should start for the Force without much competition, so he will get show what he can bring.
- Ryan Lonergan. Think he should have gone to the WC in place of IFL. Happy to see him get a crack.
- Miles Amatosero. I'll wait on this one. Yes he has all the attributes but we've heard this before about 2nd Rowers. Also only 21, so he has a couple of years before he is even at his physical prime.
- Max Burey. At first I thought no way but it's not a bad shout with because of our current situation. A lot will depend on the Force winning games and Pasitoa. He won't win us a WC but we're a bit lost at 10 still with a lot of kids coming through behind Gordon. Noah is an obvious recall chance to get in the way.
- Josh Flook. Think this is pretty obvious. Wallabies lacked versatility and smarts. Ticks a lot of boxes and seems a leader as well.
- Max Jorgensen. Would have already if not for the broken leg. He'll be blooded for sure.
- Corey Toole. With Mark leaving I think he's definitely in a side at some stage.
- Tom Horton. I think we are in some deep trouble if he's wearing gold. A small hooker who can't throw (shouldn't count against him). He's got energy but it's a no for me.
- Harry Potter. Think this is another good chance. Another versatile back. If fit he should start for the Force without much competition, so he will get show what he can bring.
- Ryan Lonergan. Think he should have gone to the WC in place of IFL. Happy to see him get a crack.
- Miles Amatosero. I'll wait on this one. Yes he has all the attributes but we've heard this before about 2nd Rowers. Also only 21, so he has a couple of years before he is even at his physical prime.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Just a general thing ive noticed. Every time a player leaves or is unavailable its not the end of the world but cumulatively it kind of is. We are so uncompetitive right now.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
You're right, but no point having players involved that don't want to be there
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Bob Davidson (42)
Toole isn’t test standard probably Kellaway at fullback with Petaia and Wright on the wings
need more of a look at Jorgensen and Sua'ali'i
Vunivalu isn't crap either, he scores tries with ease
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Bob Davidson (42)
Some of those names shouldn’t be there
Lonergan should be starting 9 IMO next year
Flook potentially but Ikitau is better
Jorgensen the other but needs more super rugby games first Eddie tried to rush him in too early
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Phil Kearns (64)
Beyond those guys Flook probably gets his start on the wing (or as a bench utility covering it) and Vunivalu will likely keep plugging away, people may not like him but there's plenty of upside to his game and he will hopefully get a full super season to push his case. Pietsch is likely in the frame too, though I personally don't rate him as a test prospect yet.
Beyond that it'll be a bit dependent on who is playing at wing for the super sides. Daugunu and Potter could both make it with guys like Vaihu and Lancaster probably a couple of years off still.
It'll also turn a bit on the Fullback situation - if Campbell steps up there then it frees Kellaway for the wing, but Campbell is unlikely to be an option as a test match winger and if Petaia or Wright end up focusing on wing alone either could lock down a spot pretty quickly.
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Phil Kearns (64)
I don't like the phrasing of "should" before the season has been played and their form has been seen, but for this list to come true the Force will have to have a massive step up in form. Potter has the best chance of those in terms of little competition for a start, but with the rest of the backline up in the air at the moment he might have a hard time showing his wares. Hooker is not a strength but Horton would have to have a hell of a season to push past the likes of Faessler, Lonergan and Pollard. If BPA is coming back the year after he may come back into the fold earlier for the wallabies too, making the job even harder for Horton. Mafi and Nasser are much more likely debutants (though both only an outside chance).
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John Thornett (49)
- Tom Horton. I think we are in some deep trouble if he's wearing gold. A small hooker who can't throw (shouldn't count against him). He's got energy but it's a no for me.
The hooker position is a real interesting one for me, its going to depend on who the new coach is. For me if we want to play international football it can only be BPA, FF (Folau Fainga'a) & maybe Ulese/Fess. If we want to play Super Rugby/7's style then its Nos & Pollard. DP may have finished as wallabies captain but for me not physical enough to play like the northern/rsa style & not quick enough for the latter
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David Codey (61)
BPA is the best possible when available. Porecki is likely to still be seen as safe so there is a spot for the next guy. It's not Uelese and he's with Moana now so he'd count as an international pick?
I like Lonergan, think Pollard has huge potential and Feassler feels like Porecki 2.0
I like Lonergan, think Pollard has huge potential and Feassler feels like Porecki 2.0
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Uelese is still at the Rebels, but I wouldn't pick him because it's been about seven years since we saw anything from him...