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Dick Tooth (41)
Add Schoupp, White & Phillip to that list
Wallabies 2024
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Chilla Wilson (44)
To be fair, One Lonergan, Neville, Samu and Ikitau (and of course Rennie) were apart of the Italy fiasco, so what exactly they were building to is unclear
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Simon Poidevin (60)
Not an administrator mate.
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Alan Cameron (40)
I wish he showed that much self reflection. The quotes I just read were first an excuse about not having a lot of time and then the justification that he is confident he did the right thing......despite 2 wins in 9 tests.
A "smash and grab" strategy using young, inexperienced players is just spin and marketing bullshit...espeicially after watching the quarters and seeing the teams playing smart tactical footy.
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Bill Watson (15)
I'm trying to stay as positive as possible. For me, I think it will come down to who he hires as his assistants going forward. If he swallows his pride and hires some very capable coaches I'd be willing to give him a chance.
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Vay Wilson (31)
He said exactly the same when he was at the Stormers - 2 days before being appointed England coach - just sayin'
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John Eales (66)
If EJ (Eddie Jones) is sticking around then it's imperative his long term assistants get hired and quickly.
The thing that stood out for me watching the Wallabies this year is that there were fifteen blokes at a time out on the paddock and nearly all of them looked lost. They didn't seem to know what they were doing or even where they should be standing. That's on the coaches.
The formations and shape of the play is determined by the coaching team and there needs to be a much more solidified coaching group and game plan. I know there wasn't a lot of time to put them all together but that's a consequence of firing your head coach nine months before a RWC. That's on RA.
The thing that stood out for me watching the Wallabies this year is that there were fifteen blokes at a time out on the paddock and nearly all of them looked lost. They didn't seem to know what they were doing or even where they should be standing. That's on the coaches.
The formations and shape of the play is determined by the coaching team and there needs to be a much more solidified coaching group and game plan. I know there wasn't a lot of time to put them all together but that's a consequence of firing your head coach nine months before a RWC. That's on RA.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
EJ (Eddie Jones) stuffed the whole year. He said that the Wallabies would win this year, talked about Foster heading down to CentreLink, talked about a smash-and-grab job etc and belittled anyone who questioned his plan or his selections and called them all 'negative' for daring to ask legitimate questions. There is no doubt that this RWC was more about the future than winning it now.
Putting all the Japan stuff aside, it's not hard to accept that perhaps EJs plan for the future had an inevitable heap of pain to start with and he is willing to take all the hits and criticism right now in the hope of building something for 2025 and beyond.
I agree that the coaching team he builds now will be pivotal. He will need results next year. I don't know if that's too soon but people will need to see at least some movement in the right direction if a complete turn-around is not realistic.
Interesting that he seemed a bit anti-centralisation. He was quite clear about pointing out his view on alignment as opposed to centralisation.
For me, 2023 is done....bring on the next phase and best of luck to him.
Putting all the Japan stuff aside, it's not hard to accept that perhaps EJs plan for the future had an inevitable heap of pain to start with and he is willing to take all the hits and criticism right now in the hope of building something for 2025 and beyond.
I agree that the coaching team he builds now will be pivotal. He will need results next year. I don't know if that's too soon but people will need to see at least some movement in the right direction if a complete turn-around is not realistic.
Interesting that he seemed a bit anti-centralisation. He was quite clear about pointing out his view on alignment as opposed to centralisation.
For me, 2023 is done....bring on the next phase and best of luck to him.
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Greg Davis (50)
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Get the Lawyers in , send him off to CentreLink.
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Watty Friend (18)
Have to agree Kerevi was a special case was the best 12 in the game pre injury and our lack of any other decent 12 option forced their hand
Only 30 so can still get back to his best
The gameplan didn’t help as jones has Kerevi kicking the back like a 2nd 10 which I have never seen before where Rennie revolved a lot of his gameplan around Kerevi getting the team on the front foot
SA and ABs have multiple options so don’t need to use injured players
Taking jorgo with 10 games of super rugby and not playing for 5 months was more of a headscratcher
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Bill Watson (15)
Don't think he said anything particularly off-putting, or unreasonable. Reality he faces is that the rugby public don't trust him and only results will turn that around. Won't get an opportunity to do that till June next year, and I don't think there's any combination of words which exists that is going to get people onside for him.
My read wasn't that he was anti-centralisation per se, but given negotiations are still ongoing he didn't want to put the cart before the horse and say we need x, y, z specific action. It also just seems apparent that high performance centralisation will happen unless RA and the states bugger it up (wouldn't put it past them) and I can't imagine he's too fussed about centralisation of commerical operations.
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Watty Friend (18)
The question is if Rennie delivered these results would he or any other coach still be there? No way
Jones got absolutely nothing right in 2023
Selections, game plan, training etc it goes on
However to replace older players don’t replace them unless you have a better candidate
Next year will tell of any of these younger guys step or fall in a heap
People have short memories koribete being one of the best wingers in the world, irb team of the year and wallabies best player for a few being called out! Kerevi being so dominant at 12 and jones couldn’t figure how to use him! No one would replace Kerevi atm even half fit! I don’t think mcreight did replace hooper, and hooper was irb 7 of the year only a year or two ago and his experience would have been very valuable
Even though Quade, foley and JOC (James O'Connor) have had inconsistent form and are no Dan carters I’m sure they would have outperformed the complete dogs breakfast performance of Donaldson and gorden who were shown to be way out of their depth
Let’s see if these two young guys can recover or fall off the earth
Jones got absolutely nothing right in 2023
Selections, game plan, training etc it goes on
However to replace older players don’t replace them unless you have a better candidate
Next year will tell of any of these younger guys step or fall in a heap
People have short memories koribete being one of the best wingers in the world, irb team of the year and wallabies best player for a few being called out! Kerevi being so dominant at 12 and jones couldn’t figure how to use him! No one would replace Kerevi atm even half fit! I don’t think mcreight did replace hooper, and hooper was irb 7 of the year only a year or two ago and his experience would have been very valuable
Even though Quade, foley and JOC (James O'Connor) have had inconsistent form and are no Dan carters I’m sure they would have outperformed the complete dogs breakfast performance of Donaldson and gorden who were shown to be way out of their depth
Let’s see if these two young guys can recover or fall off the earth
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Greg Davis (50)
You know what - after watching the full presser, fuck it, I'm back aboard the Eddie train.
Assuming the Japan stuff blows over, Eddie is absolutely making the right noises on how to take the Wallabies and Australian Rugby to a better place. As many suspected, it really does seem like it's been all eyes to 2027 all along.
If nothing else, at least being optimistic is much better for my well-being - this place could probably use a bit more positivity too, based on recent weeks' conversations.
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Bill Watson (15)
It is fascinating how the bloke has never learnt to just stop running his trap. Can't imagine how much trouble he would have saved himself over his career if he was able to zip it at some points. As time passes, his "smash-and-grab" comments were very dumb and really came back to bite him in the arse. If he had known coming into the job he would end up deciding youth was the best way forward, I would think he would have attempted to manage expectations a bit better.