Sir Arthur Higgins
Dick Tooth (41)
it's all relative and with the benefit of hindsight - relatively speaking, he didnt suck!
rugby systems are the issue. hamish if he sticks around needs to shut the fuck up and get on with the job of reform.
Wallabies 2024
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rugby systems are the issue. hamish if he sticks around needs to shut the fuck up and get on with the job of reform.
LeCheese
Greg Davis (50)
This conversation is more circular than one of @Dismal Pillock’s flow charts
dru
David Wilson (68)
And almost, but not quite, entirely irrelevant at the same time.
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Just because Jones has failed that doesn’t make Rennie good, also how much of the short term failings on the board wanting to build to the future?
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
Yeah, it’s done. We all get it, we all hate it.
As much as I doubt the outcome I really hope we see Waugh make change. Yeah he has a resume that fits the business as usual type for Rugby but unlike leather sniffers like Pulver he bled for the jersey and I trust is shattered about what’s happened.
As much as I doubt the outcome I really hope we see Waugh make change. Yeah he has a resume that fits the business as usual type for Rugby but unlike leather sniffers like Pulver he bled for the jersey and I trust is shattered about what’s happened.
Linerunner2023
Watty Friend (18)
Yes correct but we must agree it has been an absolute clusterfuck with jones this year the way he has carried himself and how far the team has fallen backwards
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
The biggest concern I had with Eddie coming in is his autocratic nature.
Modern coaching is more about player empowerment than being a hard arse.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Jones has an exclusive interview with Halloran (haaaaaaa) in the Oz, denying the Japan interview…
Kinda…
Kinda…
DENIED (sort of): Jones finally addresses Japan job report but a big question still remains
It's taken four days and some elite obfuscation from Wallabies coach Eddie Jones, but he's finally denied he "applied" for the vacant job as…
www.theroar.com.au
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eastman
John Solomon (38)
Tomthumb is a pretty special case.
It‘s not a matter of ‘failing‘ - it’s about whether Rennie was better than the alternatives, and according to the evidence, he absolutely is.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
It would be nice to keep one through the term of their contract, but not this one. Rennie should have been able to see out his term.
Wallaby coaches are harder to keep than prime ministers.
Giving a 5 yr contract is ludicrous.
Start with two years with KPIs attached to be met to be eligible for another two year extension. Why would you do anything else?
If there are no KPIs in the contract and EJ (Eddie Jones) had carte blanche on selections, assistants and the way we were going to play then the people who signed him should go first. What a complete fuck up……….again. He had complete freedom to do whatever he wanted and we now see the result. It’s just bad business and rugby is now and has been a business for a long time.
They cannot afford to pay him out but more so cannot afford to keep him. If he stays a lot of people will walk and rugby in Australia will lose even more credibility.
eastman
John Solomon (38)
Maybe the Wallabies suck and Rennie was doing a good job with the cattle he had available?
He clearly was a better coach than Jones.
eastman
John Solomon (38)
Jones recent coaching record is about on par with your contributions to this forum.
dru
David Wilson (68)
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
It was interesting listening to Andrew Mehrtens, Jeff Wilson and Tim Horan talk about this on Stan last nite. The comment was made that ‘formulaic rugby’ can win and be successful at this level but it’s not good enough beyond this level.
It’s something I’ve definitely seen and thought watching my son play over the years. As someone who is looking to be a coach next season, all of this current chat and talk about rugby is getting noted and kept for the things that I want to try and achieve in 2024.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
Jones was a good coach not that long ago but he is now too caught up in his own old hype. He made some really poor decisions, many more than good ones and his media front has been a complete circus. Funny at first but now it just reflects poorly on the Wallabies and RA. They are a laughing stock.
SouthernX
John Thornett (49)
Any Dave Rennie evaluation should look at the facts.
1. A wallaby coach in a covid bubble who played majority of his Rugby championship games in QLD
2. Couldn’t win with current squad so asked RA to expand the Gitea law.
Those 2 nuggets are pretty important when it comes to evaluating Rennie… look how horrible the guy was when he had to coach outside of Australia…. The spring tours were disasters
1. A wallaby coach in a covid bubble who played majority of his Rugby championship games in QLD
2. Couldn’t win with current squad so asked RA to expand the Gitea law.
Those 2 nuggets are pretty important when it comes to evaluating Rennie… look how horrible the guy was when he had to coach outside of Australia…. The spring tours were disasters
Penriff_boy
Billy Sheehan (19)
I would much rather lose to Ireland and France by 1 point , than the results we have now.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
agreed lets focus on Wallabies 2024... which players currently in the RWC squad might fall out next year, and who has missed out that might come back in.
As I watched the Brumbies, I feel from them Wright to have a big year, both young hookers and Lonergan. I'd love to see Toole given a shot, but don't think Eddie likes small wingers, but the turn of pace is so electric that his going to be there or there abouts
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
I don’t think Toole is out of it. Keep scoring tries and he’ll be in squads.
I think we may have seen the end of Nic White, AAA, Kerevi, Porecki, Arnold
Tom Wright is a Winger at Test level. He has great skills but you can’t trust him at Fullback. I think Pollard can go past Lonergan if he stays fit. Has the frame to hold more size and can be a beast around the field.
The Halfback job is completely up for grabs IMO even though I’ve written White off. McDermott is most likely but hasn’t set the world on fire and IFL was a bolter.
Backrow will be made up of Valetini, Leota, Gleeson, Wright, Hooper. McReight and Swinton could feature. I think Eddie might like Swinton if he can be fit and keep his head.
I think we may have seen the end of Nic White, AAA, Kerevi, Porecki, Arnold
Tom Wright is a Winger at Test level. He has great skills but you can’t trust him at Fullback. I think Pollard can go past Lonergan if he stays fit. Has the frame to hold more size and can be a beast around the field.
The Halfback job is completely up for grabs IMO even though I’ve written White off. McDermott is most likely but hasn’t set the world on fire and IFL was a bolter.
Backrow will be made up of Valetini, Leota, Gleeson, Wright, Hooper. McReight and Swinton could feature. I think Eddie might like Swinton if he can be fit and keep his head.