The previous set up was bizarre. I'm sure he's a good bloke but Brett Hogson for example??
Should also include the fact he was known to be incredibly hard to work for, and had a proven record of churning through assistants. Not exactly heaps of people breaking down his doorAmong many issues, this was one of the biggest with the timing of the Eddie Jones appointment. Your choices of assistant coaches is incredibly limited if you're a) hiring out of schedule and b) because you're hiring out of schedule you don't want to make long term commitments to those people.
Exactly, I'm kinda surprised Fisher came back, to be honest; I thought when he quit the Brumbies and left out of the Wallabies, he was going to be done with it and would move into what he's doing now, helping coaches, 7's and just being a roving consultant.Among many issues, this was one of the biggest with the timing of the Eddie Jones appointment. Your choices of assistant coaches is incredibly limited if you're a) hiring out of schedule and b) because you're hiring out of schedule you don't want to make long term commitments to those people.
A big reason why Eddie shouldn’t have been employed. Surely a fair question to ask him in his interview was “ Who are your support coaches”? Jason Ryles as a rugby ‘Attack’ coach…… beyond belief really. One of the Ella boys should have helped out at last minute…. Slightly more knowledge of back play than Ryles, with all due respect.Among many issues, this was one of the biggest with the timing of the Eddie Jones appointment. Your choices of assistant coaches is incredibly limited if you're a) hiring out of schedule and b) because you're hiring out of schedule you don't want to make long term commitments to those people.
A big reason why Eddie shouldn’t have been employed. Surely a fair question to ask him in his interview was “ Who are your support coaches”? Jason Ryles as a rugby ‘Attack’ coach…… beyond belief really.
It did seem limited to those in his phone book who were unemployedAmong many issues, this was one of the biggest with the timing of the Eddie Jones appointment. Your choices of assistant coaches is incredibly limited if you're a) hiring out of schedule and b) because you're hiring out of schedule you don't want to make long term commitments to those people.
True, but getting the right assistants to implement your plan is helpful - eg getting a Half to be the maul coach - not sure that's the right fit.The timing was the problem. It didn't matter who they were putting in at that point.
Who knows whether Eddie would have worked out if they'd just stuck to the planned schedule of Rennie seeing out his contract to the RWC and then we bring in Eddie Jones in 2024 on a regular cycle.
I don't think the assistant coaches were necessarily the issue. At that late hour you're not hiring an assistant coach to bring in their own schemes and plans, you're hiring them to implement your existing plan etc. They're professional coaches and even though a lot of their experience is from rugby league, to a large degree, coaching is coaching. They obviously understand the game.
Eddie Jones has always been known as being very controlling. His assistants are always going to be hired to implement his plan.
Hell, even putting the experienced assistants you have in the roles they're experienced in would've been a step up - Dan Palmer was coaching line out instead of scrum, Brad Davis was coaching attack instead of defence when he was there.True, but getting the right assistants to implement your plan is helpful - eg getting a Half to be the maul coach - not sure that's the right fit.
Yeah - that’s the bit that got me.Hell, even putting the experienced assistants you have in the roles they're experienced in would've been a step up - Dan Palmer was coaching line out instead of scrum, Brad Davis was coaching attack instead of defence when he was there.
Grabbing a coupla unemployed NRL coaches and topping them up with an AFL coach (from Adelaide FFS!) got me. That'll take some beating.Well, one of the many, many things that got me.
The timing was the problem. It didn't matter who they were putting in at that point.
This debacle is going to go down in history for the biggest stuff up in Australian rugby's history, if not the world-wide game. Come to think of it, the refusal by the Northern Union not to admit professional players is actually the worst.For goodness sake. Eddie was not a result of a timing problem. Wanting Eddie was the reason for the timing problem. RA chose Eddie with all the issues such as assistants thereby creating the timing issue. AND publicised it as a major coup.
I am sympathetic to both cases here. Whilst I subscribe to the to the thesis that the best course of action would have been to keep Rennie until after the RWC, the fact was that pretty much all of his assistants had walked. So it does come down to who was available and willing at the time to a large extent. If someone has the resources to disseminate this information and come up with a coaching team that may have resembled what the Rennie campaign would have looked like I would be interested to see it.For goodness sake. Eddie was not a result of a timing problem. Wanting Eddie was the reason for the timing problem. RA chose Eddie with all the issues such as assistants thereby creating the timing issue. AND publicised it as a major coup.
Sorry KOB are you saying that the coaching team abandoned Rennie? And was Eddies handicap?I am sympathetic to both cases here. Whilst I subscribe to the to the thesis that the best course of action would have been to keep Rennie until after the RWC, the fact was that pretty much all of his assistants had walked. So it does come down to who was available and willing at the time to a large extent. If someone has the resources to disseminate this information and come up with a coaching team that may have resembled what the Rennie campaign would have looked like I would be interested to see it.
I don’t know if abandoned is the right word but most had certainly resigned by the time Rennie got the arse. And it certainly didn’t help Eddie’s cause, but I don’t know who the alternatives were.Sorry KOB are you saying that the coaching team abandoned Rennie? And was Eddies handicap?
Yeah watching the documentary the AFL coach seemed to be there as a vibe curator for lack of better descriptor.Grabbing a coupla unemployed NRL coaches and topping them up with an AFL coach (from Adelaide FFS!) got me. That'll take some beating.