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Wallabies 2023

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
How many will go to SA though? Probably only 27 and not Bell & Tupou. I think that squad should all make the RWC injuries and bad performances pending.

You take a 23, maybe a backup backrower, a backup hooker & 9 and outside back. Potentially we're looking at only 4 additions to that squad.

Actually, the Aus A match makes things less clear.
Why not Tupou? I think he'll probably be ready by then.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
How many will go to SA though? Probably only 27 and not Bell & Tupou. I think that squad should all make the RWC injuries and bad performances pending.

You take a 23, maybe a backup backrower, a backup hooker & 9 and outside back. Potentially we're looking at only 4 additions to that squad.

Actually, the Aus A match makes things less clear.

In 2019 they spent a whole week there training so they took the whole 34 player squad.

Unless they go with a significantly different plan and only fly in a couple of days before the game I imagine they'll do the same.
 

Mr Pilfer

Dave Cowper (27)
The squad sizes for the world cup have already been confirmed as 33 so not sure why the debate.

I believe that can give you;

- 6 props (AAA / Slipper / Tupou if fit / Bell if fit / 2 others)
- 3 hookers (Porecki / 2 others)
- 3 locks (Frost / Skelton / 1 other)
- 6 backrow (Holloway / McReight / Valetini and then 3 out of Hooper/Hanigan/LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)/Wilson/Gleeson/Samu)
- 3 halfbacks (White / Lonergan / Tate)
- 2 flyhalves (Quade and Gordon/Foley)
- 4 centres (Kerevi / Ikitau / Foketi / 1 other)
- 5 outside backs (Marika / Kellaway / Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) / Wright / 1 other)
- 1 utility (Hodge or O'Connor)

You could probably drop the extra outside back for another backrower but someone needs to play against Portugal
 

rugbyAU

Dick Tooth (41)
The squad sizes for the world cup have already been confirmed as 33 so not sure why the debate.

I believe that can give you;

- 6 props (AAA / Slipper / Tupou if fit / Bell if fit / 2 others)
- 3 hookers (Porecki / 2 others)
- 3 locks (Frost / Skelton / 1 other)
- 6 backrow (Holloway / McReight / Valetini and then 3 out of Hooper/Hanigan/LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)/Wilson/Gleeson/Samu)
- 3 halfbacks (White / Lonergan / Tate)
- 2 flyhalves (Quade and Gordon/Foley)
- 4 centres (Kerevi / Ikitau / Foketi / 1 other)
- 5 outside backs (Marika / Kellaway / Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) / Wright / 1 other)
- 1 utility (Hodge or O'Connor)

You could probably drop the extra outside back for another backrower but someone needs to play against Portugal
probably 4 second rowers and 3 specialist centres
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Simon Poidevin (60)
The squad sizes for the world cup have already been confirmed as 33 so not sure why the debate.

I believe that can give you;

- 6 props (AAA / Slipper / Tupou if fit / Bell if fit / 2 others)
- 3 hookers (Porecki / 2 others)
- 3 locks (Frost / Skelton / 1 other)
- 6 backrow (Holloway / McReight / Valetini and then 3 out of Hooper/Hanigan/LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)/Wilson/Gleeson/Samu)
- 3 halfbacks (White / Lonergan / Tate)
- 2 flyhalves (Quade and Gordon/Foley)
- 4 centres (Kerevi / Ikitau / Foketi / 1 other)
- 5 outside backs (Marika / Kellaway / Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) / Wright / 1 other)
- 1 utility (Hodge or O'Connor)

You could probably drop the extra outside back for another backrower but someone needs to play against Portugal
I like you breakdown and players written in seems pretty bang on.

Said it after the Reds v Chiefs game but a guy like Josh Flook if included in the RC could play himself into that "1 other" spot with his ability to play Centre and Wing. He's a quality player for as fresh as he is.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
The squad sizes for the world cup have already been confirmed as 33 so not sure why the debate.

I believe that can give you;

- 6 props (AAA / Slipper / Tupou if fit / Bell if fit / 2 others)
- 3 hookers (Porecki / 2 others)
- 3 locks (Frost / Skelton / 1 other)
- 6 backrow (Holloway / McReight / Valetini and then 3 out of Hooper/Hanigan/LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)/Wilson/Gleeson/Samu)
- 3 halfbacks (White / Lonergan / Tate)
- 2 flyhalves (Quade and Gordon/Foley)
- 4 centres (Kerevi / Ikitau / Foketi / 1 other)
- 5 outside backs (Marika / Kellaway / Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) / Wright / 1 other)
- 1 utility (Hodge or O'Connor)

You could probably drop the extra outside back for another backrower but someone needs to play against Portugal

interesting the lack of versatility in that backline. Foley has some flexibility but I wouldn't have him in the squad - I thought he was bog average last year. None of the other halves are really strong candidates outside of their primary position. QC (Quade Cooper) maybe in the past but not now.

Kerevi's versatility is only 12/13. Foketi the same at a stretch. Ikitau I don't see as a realistic candidate as anywhere other than 13.

Marika is purely a 12. Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) I'd worry about at 15 unless it is a 2nd string Fiji team. Wright can obviously wing and fullback. Kellaway the same plus 13.

Some versatility will be key I reckon. Beale would be the ultimate but is a lost cause.

- Hodge the standout covering everywhere in double figures.
- JOC (James O'Connor) covers 10 and 12 but perhaps 13 and 15 at a pinch. Not wing anymore though.
- there was talk about giving Jock Campbell some time at 10 but that seems to be a Rennie thing and never happened. But he covers 15 and wing.
- Petaia pretty key at covering 13, wing and fullback and could be important.
- Donaldson ok but not really up to it at the moment.
- Jack Debreczeni a left field option having played some 15.
- I wonder if Issak Fines-Leleiwasa might consider is Wallaby having missed the Fiji squad? He adds massive versatility.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Simon Poidevin (60)
interesting the lack of versatility in that backline. Foley has some flexibility but I wouldn't have him in the squad - I thought he was bog average last year. None of the other halves are really strong candidates outside of their primary position. QC (Quade Cooper) (Quade Cooper) maybe in the past but not now.

Kerevi's versatility is only 12/13. Foketi the same at a stretch. Ikitau I don't see as a realistic candidate as anywhere other than 13.

Marika is purely a 12. Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) I'd worry about at 15 unless it is a 2nd string Fiji team. Wright can obviously wing and fullback. Kellaway the same plus 13.

Some versatility will be key I reckon. Beale would be the ultimate but is a lost cause.

- Hodge the standout covering everywhere in double figures.
- JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) covers 10 and 12 but perhaps 13 and 15 at a pinch. Not wing anymore though.
- there was talk about giving Jock Campbell some time at 10 but that seems to be a Rennie thing and never happened. But he covers 15 and wing.
- Petaia pretty key at covering 13, wing and fullback and could be important.
- Donaldson ok but not really up to it at the moment.
- Jack Debreczeni a left field option having played some 15.
- I wonder if Issak Fines-Leleiwasa might consider is Wallaby having missed the Fiji squad? He adds massive versatility.
JOC (James O'Connor)-Slow and not a great defender
Jock Campbell would need to be in the RC and really stand out.
Donaldson - No
Jack Deb - I want to say no but hey hes the last Aussie 10 left in Super Rugby
Issak Fines is just a less complete Tate McDermott

I'll say it again. Josh Flook is lurking as someone who can play 11,12,13,14 and would probably be as good at 15 as Nawaqanitawase.
 

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
Has Frost actually played at 6??
I think I saw him play one game at 6 and played OK but where and when? I think we lose too much putting Frost at 6 he is growing into a great lock in the Eales (bit like) mould, he handles well, runs and passes. His D is improving but not yet good enough for a 6. If we had too great locks then you could convert him in the next couple of years but atm I am happy with Frost/Skelton combo.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Via Socials (Samu Kerevi’s IG) looks like the bulk of the wallabies squad has formed on the Gold Coast already - looks like LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is included also
Any Reds or Tahs spotted? Would assume they’d be given a week most likely, same for Brumbies unless they win this weekend.
 
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Mr Pilfer

Dave Cowper (27)
interesting the lack of versatility in that backline. Foley has some flexibility but I wouldn't have him in the squad - I thought he was bog average last year. None of the other halves are really strong candidates outside of their primary position. QC (Quade Cooper) (Quade Cooper) maybe in the past but not now.

Kerevi's versatility is only 12/13. Foketi the same at a stretch. Ikitau I don't see as a realistic candidate as anywhere other than 13.

Marika is purely a 12. Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) I'd worry about at 15 unless it is a 2nd string Fiji team. Wright can obviously wing and fullback. Kellaway the same plus 13.

Some versatility will be key I reckon. Beale would be the ultimate but is a lost cause.

- Hodge the standout covering everywhere in double figures.
- JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) covers 10 and 12 but perhaps 13 and 15 at a pinch. Not wing anymore though.
- there was talk about giving Jock Campbell some time at 10 but that seems to be a Rennie thing and never happened. But he covers 15 and wing.
- Petaia pretty key at covering 13, wing and fullback and could be important.
- Donaldson ok but not really up to it at the moment.
- Jack Debreczeni a left field option having played some 15.
- I wonder if Issak Fines-Leleiwasa might consider is Wallaby having missed the Fiji squad? He adds massive versatility.
Yep this is why I think Hodge is a certainty. Hopefully Petaia makes it as well.

Wouldn’t be keen on any of the others mentioned, although I rate IFL as a halfback for the future
 
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