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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Deans’ track record isn’t spotless…
There’s been plenty written about his time at the All Blacks, and those issues eventually carried over to his time at the Wallabies.
Wallabies 2023
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Deans’ track record isn’t spotless…
There’s been plenty written about his time at the All Blacks, and those issues eventually carried over to his time at the Wallabies.
Deans' top league side hasn't lost a game in 4 years. Granted it's a bit of a Mickey Mouse comp, but it's still an impressive feat
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I think you just said what i did in more words.
Wallaby Man
Nev Cottrell (35)
I agree with this. Actually think the major issue is player IQ. There just isn’t enough smart rugby at the elite levels SS/QPrem and above (Super Rugby). Our coaches and players just don’t play enough and put under enough different situations. Scotland has limited ability yet take it to us on a consistent basis.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Mostly by people with an ax to grind.
As they were always going to. One of the foundations of Deans' (& Michell's) approach was that no matter whether you're an academy player or an entrenched AB you turn up to training in a fit state to train, and turn up on match day in a fit state to play, or you get dropped with a cover story so ridiculous no-one believes it (that being the point). Not saying Quade ever fell into that particular category but clearly at some point Deans tired of the distractions he brought.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Which can sometimes mean that is the level he is great coaching at? But you right it's impressive.
dillyboy
Colin Windon (37)
Ha ha, oops - typo
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie has confirmed a 44-man squad ahead of a four-day camp on the Gold Coast next week.
The group will assemble for the camp on Monday, which will include a combination of on and off field elements that will prepare the team for the 2023 International season which culminates in the Rugby World Cup in France in September.
Waratahs backrower Charlie Gamble and Brumbies scrumhalf Ryan Lonergan are the only two uncapped players in the squad, the former becoming eligible for Wallabies selection in April.
After missing last year’s International season through injury, Western Force lock Izack Rodda finds himself back in the Wallabies environment to kick off 2023, as does 95-Test back Kurtley Beale.
Injured duo Quade Cooper and Samu Kerevi have also been named in a squad that contains 26 forwards and 19 backs.
In what is a mostly familiar group from the past three seasons, the squad comprises of 13 ACT Brumbies, 13 NSW Waratahs, seven Queensland Reds, six Melbourne Rebels, three Western Force and two overseas-based players.
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie said: “What’s exciting for us is that over the past three years we’ve created genuine depth and competition of places.”
“Of the 44 players all bar two have worn the gold jersey over the past three years and there’s also several fringe players who still have an opportunity to force their way into the next camp through strong Super Rugby form.
“We’ll use the four days to make sure all players head back to their franchises with a clear understanding on what will give them the best chance of representing their country in a World Cup year.”
Wallabies January Camp squad (age, club, Tests played)
Props
Allan Ala'alatoa (28, ACT Brumbies, 64 Tests)
Angus Bell (22, NSW Waratahs, 20 Tests)
Matt Gibbon (27, Melbourne Rebels, 5 Tests)
Tom Robertson (28, Western Force, 31 Tests)
James Slipper (33, ACT Brumbies, 127 Tests)
Sam Talakai (31, Melbourne Rebels, 1 Test)
Taniela Tupou (26, Queensland Reds, 47 Tests)
Hookers
Folau Fainga’a (27, Western Force, 38 Tests)
Lachlan Lonergan (23, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
David Porecki (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Locks
Nick Frost (23, ACT Brumbies, 9 Tests)
Cadeyrn Neville (34, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Matt Philip (28, Melbourne Rebels, 27 Tests)
Izack Rodda (26, Western Force, 34 Tests)
Darcy Swain (25, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Loose Forwards
Charlie Gamble (26, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
Langi Gleeson (21, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Ned Hanigan (27, NSW Waratahs, 28 Tests)
Jed Holloway (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Michael Hooper (31, NSW Waratahs, 124 Tests)
Rob Leota (25, Melbourne Rebels, 13 Tests)
Fraser McReight (23, Queensland Reds, 10 Tests)
Pete Samu (31, ACT Brumbies, 32 Tests)
Rob Valetini (24, ACT Brumbies, 30 Tests)
Harry Wilson (23, Queensland Reds, 12 Tests)
Scrumhalves
Jake Gordon (29, NSW Waratahs, 20 Tests)
Ryan Lonergan (24, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
Tate McDermott (24, Queensland Reds, 21 Tests)
Nic White (32, ACT Brumbies, 59 Tests)
Flyhalves
Quade Cooper (34, Kintetsu Liners, 76 Tests)
Ben Donaldson (23, NSW Waratahs, 2 Tests)
Noah Lolesio (23, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Centres
Lalakai Foketi (28, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
Len Ikitau (24, ACT Brumbies, 26 Tests)
Hunter Paisami (24, Queensland Reds, 24 Tests)
Izaia Perese (25, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Samu Kerevi (29, Suntory Sungoliath, 41 Tests)
Outside Backs
Kurtley Beale (33, NSW Waratahs, 95 Tests)
Jock Campbell (27, Queensland Reds, 4 Tests)
Reece Hodge (28, Melbourne Rebels, 62 Tests)
Andrew Kellaway (27, Melbourne Rebels, 21 Tests)
Mark Nawaqanitawase (22, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Jordan Petaia (22, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
Tom Wright (25, ACT Brumbies, 23 Tests)
The group will assemble for the camp on Monday, which will include a combination of on and off field elements that will prepare the team for the 2023 International season which culminates in the Rugby World Cup in France in September.
Waratahs backrower Charlie Gamble and Brumbies scrumhalf Ryan Lonergan are the only two uncapped players in the squad, the former becoming eligible for Wallabies selection in April.
After missing last year’s International season through injury, Western Force lock Izack Rodda finds himself back in the Wallabies environment to kick off 2023, as does 95-Test back Kurtley Beale.
Injured duo Quade Cooper and Samu Kerevi have also been named in a squad that contains 26 forwards and 19 backs.
In what is a mostly familiar group from the past three seasons, the squad comprises of 13 ACT Brumbies, 13 NSW Waratahs, seven Queensland Reds, six Melbourne Rebels, three Western Force and two overseas-based players.
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie said: “What’s exciting for us is that over the past three years we’ve created genuine depth and competition of places.”
“Of the 44 players all bar two have worn the gold jersey over the past three years and there’s also several fringe players who still have an opportunity to force their way into the next camp through strong Super Rugby form.
“We’ll use the four days to make sure all players head back to their franchises with a clear understanding on what will give them the best chance of representing their country in a World Cup year.”
Wallabies January Camp squad (age, club, Tests played)
Props
Allan Ala'alatoa (28, ACT Brumbies, 64 Tests)
Angus Bell (22, NSW Waratahs, 20 Tests)
Matt Gibbon (27, Melbourne Rebels, 5 Tests)
Tom Robertson (28, Western Force, 31 Tests)
James Slipper (33, ACT Brumbies, 127 Tests)
Sam Talakai (31, Melbourne Rebels, 1 Test)
Taniela Tupou (26, Queensland Reds, 47 Tests)
Hookers
Folau Fainga’a (27, Western Force, 38 Tests)
Lachlan Lonergan (23, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
David Porecki (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Locks
Nick Frost (23, ACT Brumbies, 9 Tests)
Cadeyrn Neville (34, ACT Brumbies, 8 Tests)
Matt Philip (28, Melbourne Rebels, 27 Tests)
Izack Rodda (26, Western Force, 34 Tests)
Darcy Swain (25, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Loose Forwards
Charlie Gamble (26, NSW Waratahs, uncapped)
Langi Gleeson (21, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Ned Hanigan (27, NSW Waratahs, 28 Tests)
Jed Holloway (30, NSW Waratahs, 10 Tests)
Michael Hooper (31, NSW Waratahs, 124 Tests)
Rob Leota (25, Melbourne Rebels, 13 Tests)
Fraser McReight (23, Queensland Reds, 10 Tests)
Pete Samu (31, ACT Brumbies, 32 Tests)
Rob Valetini (24, ACT Brumbies, 30 Tests)
Harry Wilson (23, Queensland Reds, 12 Tests)
Scrumhalves
Jake Gordon (29, NSW Waratahs, 20 Tests)
Ryan Lonergan (24, ACT Brumbies, uncapped)
Tate McDermott (24, Queensland Reds, 21 Tests)
Nic White (32, ACT Brumbies, 59 Tests)
Flyhalves
Quade Cooper (34, Kintetsu Liners, 76 Tests)
Ben Donaldson (23, NSW Waratahs, 2 Tests)
Noah Lolesio (23, ACT Brumbies, 17 Tests)
Centres
Lalakai Foketi (28, NSW Waratahs, 5 Tests)
Len Ikitau (24, ACT Brumbies, 26 Tests)
Hunter Paisami (24, Queensland Reds, 24 Tests)
Izaia Perese (25, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Samu Kerevi (29, Suntory Sungoliath, 41 Tests)
Outside Backs
Kurtley Beale (33, NSW Waratahs, 95 Tests)
Jock Campbell (27, Queensland Reds, 4 Tests)
Reece Hodge (28, Melbourne Rebels, 62 Tests)
Andrew Kellaway (27, Melbourne Rebels, 21 Tests)
Mark Nawaqanitawase (22, NSW Waratahs, 3 Tests)
Jordan Petaia (22, Queensland Reds, 25 Tests)
Tom Wright (25, ACT Brumbies, 23 Tests)
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
I'm a bit surprised both of Pone Fa'amausili and Harry Johnson-Holmes didn't make it, but that may have been too many injured props to carry, depending on what the plan is.
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
I’m guessing Koro and Foley involved with their Japanese teams
Kerevi and Quade are in QLD on injury leave
Lightblue
Arch Winning (36)
No shocks. Gamble is a great addition. Beale is past it though imho.
Knuckles
Ted Thorn (20)
Good. Maybe now JOC (James O'Connor) playing 10 is also over
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
According to the tahs Harry Johnson-Holmes has been included:
Knuckles
Ted Thorn (20)
worryingly....there's a LOT over 30 and a few more that'll turn 30 before the World Cup. It's not saying a lot for our development programs. 2027 is a worry