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Wallabies 2023

Rob42

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
How much pressure is there on Rennie, perceived or otherwise, to win more than 2 games on this tour or get walked.
I can't see any way that Rennie gets sacked at this point. We're less than 12 months from the RWC, there's no obvious replacement - McKellar is obviously the understudy but no reason to think he'd miraculously turn things around overnight - and Rennie's results are right in line with the previous well-credentialed coaches that we've had. From all appearances, he's popular in the boardroom and the dressing room.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
I can't see any way that Rennie gets sacked at this point. We're less than 12 months from the RWC, there's no obvious replacement - McKellar is obviously the understudy but no reason to think he'd miraculously turn things around overnight - and Rennie's results are right in line with the previous well-credentialed coaches that we've had. From all appearances, he's popular in the boardroom and the dressing room.

Is there some benefit in McKellar running through two RWC's though as the HC? There will still be a number of players who will likely go to both.

Obviously 2023 won't be a success, I think even the most painted on Wallabies fans would agree we aren't peaking in line with some of the Northern Hemisphere sides. But 2027 at home, with our talent coming through, should be a genuine target.

I don't think anyone is expecting some kind of dramatic turn around with this current group, whether that is under Rennie or otherwise. Maybe cutting the cord early is better.
 

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
Taking 3 7's (inc Samu) on this trip is madness. We need some big bodies and I was surprised that Wilson or Seru Uru wasn't included.

This pack will have to grow some big ones to have a decent impact against France and Ireland. Foley will be a minor speed hump and Lolesio and maybe Donaldson will be used to try to stem the tide if the pack cannot hold out. This is time for the forwards to get together and form a pack mentality and decide to fight it out, up the controlled aggression and cut out the brain-dead penalty, yellows and reds stuff.
 
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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Is there some benefit in McKellar running through two RWC's though as the HC? There will still be a number of players who will likely go to both.

Is McKellar, untested as an international head coach so obviously the best choice that you'd commit to him for 5 years now?
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
You lot keep preaching about him having Diamonds, but we've yet to see it.

He's played poorly all international season and should be dropped for it.

It reeks of Larkham 2.0 McKellar Mafia picking their favourites.

He played superbly well in his first 2 games in the England series. It's funny how quickly we forget about the good performances when a player has a few stinkers.

Personally, I think he he makes too many errors for Test rugby, but he certainly does have a cracking highlight reel and occasionally a very good game in him. Give credit where credit is due.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
It reeks of Larkham 2.0 McKellar Mafia picking their favourites.

Who could forget all of Larkham's favourites during the Cheika years...

Thankfully the McKellar Mafia now have control, and have clearly asserted their influence on the current squad.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
I feel for Harry Wilson…

In my opinion he’s still easily the best backup no 8 if Valetini goes down.

And what direction are we now going at 6 with Leota out?

Until I see Ned Hanigan win a collision against his opposite winger I won’t be convinced he’s a candidate.

I agree on Hanigan. His workrate, low error rate, and consistency in Aus A got him selected. But his lack of impact is telling (especially against wingers).

I think Uru should have come into contention, I think his last game was great, he was impactful, especially around the edges, he was combining well with Vunivalu at times and making metres. Much better then Hanigan on the wider channels.

Plus Hanigan is basically like for like with Holloway. Maybe that's why he was picked, can cover lock too.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
Ned was pretty impressive in the wide channels in the second Aus A game, dominated collisions and guaranteed front foot ball. Was bouncing off players in the Tahs win against the Highlanders.

I’ll go out on a limb and think he will start the out of release tests at no.6 or at least be in the 23.

On the Wilson front, there is a chance Leota will play 8 with Kemeny’s return to rebels (when Leota is fit). Will Harris is seriously impressive and if improves like he did this year, Wilson could find himself 4-5th choice no.8. He needs to get considerably more explosive, he’s just not able to dominate in the contact zone enough. Currently he gets a lot of meters because he’s taking twice the amount of runs than anyone else.

First I heard about Will Harris being a potential option. Will he even get game time with the likes of Gleeson, Hooper, Gamble, Swinton, Sinclair, Holloway, Hanigan at the Tahs? I'd hope Gleeson start at 8.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
Is McKellar, untested as an international head coach so obviously the best choice that you'd commit to him for 5 years now?

Not at all, I'm simply asking some questions. Because I think it's a genuine discussion point.

I have a lot of faith in the young talent coming through our system, clearly the selectors are seeing the need to starting exposing some of those guys like Donaldson, Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) and Gleeson going on tour.

If this tour ends up being more than just a disappointment, but a full-blown disaster, maybe it will be time to look the next option and expose the young talent to a more likely future coach.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
I feel like people are judging Ned currently too much on 2017-2018.

He's been winning a lot more collisions in his brief Tahs stint this year and the Aus A games. Very solid ball-carrying, can offload and the odd dominant tackle. He's an absolute workhorse too.

I feel like I have been watching a different Aus A series. I didn't see him win many collisons or make any dominate tackles. I recall him being tackled easily by wingers several times. He was a workhorse though.

I hope I am wrong. Because he does everything right besides the impact.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
Not at all, I'm simply asking some questions. Because I think it's a genuine discussion point.

I have a lot of faith in the young talent coming through our system, clearly the selectors are seeing the need to starting exposing some of those guys like Donaldson, Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) and Gleeson going on tour.

If this tour ends up being more than just a disappointment, but a full-blown disaster, maybe it will be time to look the next option and expose the young talent to a more likely future coach.

For a future coach, surely the flood gates open after the RWC23. Scott Robinson and Eddie Jones should be options, although probably difficult to get on board.
Maybe Jamie Joseph could be a chance. I love this idea as I feel we should be playing a more similar style to Japan (as we don't seem to be able to complete physically with less dominate forwards).
I would be chasing these 3 with McKellar as the back-up option.
 

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
How much pressure is there on Rennie, perceived or otherwise, to win more than 2 games on this tour or get walked.
They should also be putting pressure on the players. Rennie has only one issue that I have seen it's in game day management, he works to a clock for replacements outside of injury and he won't pull someone who's having an off day. Mind you he ain't the only coach who does this.
 
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stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
For a future coach, surely the flood gates open after the RWC23. Scott Robinson and Eddie Jones should be options, although probably difficult to get on board.
Maybe Jamie Joseph could be a chance. I love this idea as I feel we should be playing a more similar style to Japan (as we don't seem to be able to complete physically with less dominate forwards).
I would be chasing these 3 with McKellar as the back-up option.
Anyone but EDDIE thanks Viking.
 
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