Wallabies 2020

[Derpus]

I see lots of teams selecting Wing/Fullback: DHP & Banks.

Terrible idea. Both are shit wingers. DHP so slow and poor defending. Banks also has poor defence, and just looks lost on the wing.

One will be fullback, unfortunately the other doesn't make the 23.

Yeah - two wingers please.

 

[Derpus]

Seems to be a few posters here affected by Cheikavirus. Depending on which Super Rugby team they support, their suggested Wallabies team has an inordinate number of players from that team and in some (many) cases fewer players from the one form side in the competition, the Brumbies.

I do mostly like the squad put forward by Upthereds above, but I will not be happy while ever both Simmons and Beale are included in discussions.

Simmons will be in the discussion because he has a multitude of test caps and we have very few senior locks.

 

[KOB1987]

Seems to be a few posters here affected by Cheikavirus. Depending on which Super Rugby team they support, their suggested Wallabies team has an inordinate number of players from that team and in some (many) cases fewer players from the one form side in the competition, the Brumbies.

I do mostly like the squad put forward by Upthereds above, but I will not be happy while ever both Simmons and Beale are included in discussions.

Yeah we know that but the reality is they are both still very likely to be squaddies at the very least while the new crop are groomed, and more importantly proven, at test level.

 

[Dctarget]

I was going to say I prefer someone taller on the wing to Kellaway purely for his height & high ball security but just looked up Kellaway's height and it's 1.84m which surprises me. Thought he was smaller.

11. Koroibete
14. Kellaway
15. Banks

 

[upthereds#!]

Seems to be a few posters here affected by Cheikavirus. Depending on which Super Rugby team they support, their suggested Wallabies team has an inordinate number of players from that team and in some (many) cases fewer players from the one form side in the competition, the Brumbies.

I do mostly like the squad put forward by Upthereds above, but I will not be happy while ever both Simmons and Beale are included in discussions.

It's a tough one - We have a couple good FB's in Banks and DHP, so we don't really need Beale, there are some wingers doing a solid job. However, as must as it pains me to say, there aren't ENOUGH locks outplaying Simmons. Rodda and Phillips are. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) will play lock, but guys like Swain, Hockings and Blyth aren't outplaying...YET. Fingers crossed.

 

[Ignoto]

Kellaway strikes me as Davies 2.0. Perhaps I am stuck in the mindset of his build from a few years ago. The Rebels have him listed as 186cm, would that be correct?

 

[RoffsChoice]

There are a heap of players who just select themselves based on their form in the World Cup and the fact that they're still playing well now.

1. Slipper
2. Fainga'a
3. Ala'alatoa
4. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)
5. Rodda
6. Samu
7. Hooper (c)
8. Naisarani
9. McDermott
10. O'Connor
11. Koroibete
12. To'omua
13. Kuridrani
14. DHP
15. Banks

16. Mafi
17. JP Smith
18. Tupou
19. Neville
20. Valetini
21. Powell
22. Simone
23. Maddocks

 

[fatprop]

Maybe its about what 'not to do'. Look at Beale's kicking, defending, ball security, throwing aimless offloads.. and do the opposite.

He is a one trick pony at the moment, lethal in broken play, a liability everywhere else.

Yeah, Beale on kick return against a formed defensive line is like your 5yro little brother running at you

He gets picked up and splattered

 

[Braveheart81]

Didn't Rennie say he would only be picking form players in the position they are playing? i think JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua are in the running for 10 or nil. Plus, Simone is the form 12 with the most rounded game of those playing 12 and partners TK who will almost certainly be the Wallaby 13.

Let's wait and see who he actually picks.

Lots of coaches talk about form and playing in position but when it boils down to it, that's just a couple of the criteria any of them use. Combinations, experience, potential,

I highly doubt that Rennie will rule out JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua being able to play anywhere other than 10 because that's where they are mostly being selected.

Form is also highly subjective as a term and almost certainly will get applied in different ways. Is it across the whole season, is it just the final month or so before selecting a squad, how will those who have missed time with injuries be judged on that basis?Like any coach, I expect it will depend on the player in question. Different criteria will be applied to different players.

I think it is absolutely certain that Rennie won't use non-existent rules based on his own statements if they hinder him selecting who he thinks is his best squad.

What will be interesting is whether any overseas based players get selected for the July series, in particular Nic White.

 

[KOB1987]

I think White is a certainty to be in the squad. Assuming Exeter make the final it is on June 20, the same day as the Super Rugby final. If it was last year and Genia and Phipps were around then maybe not, but as all the other contenders are essentially rookies, and we are talking about the most pivotal position on the field, he's too important to not have in the 23.

 

[fatprop]

I think Speight should be on the wing with Koroibete, they are the two form units

I also believe we still need a backrower who is a viable lineout option (Naisarani) and another who is a real lineout option (LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) or another)

I see Samu as Hooper's understudy, unless you start budgeting to replace Hooper, we end up with another unbalanced backrow finishing games unless a unit as effective as LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) plays 80

I also see a young lock being selected, one of the baby 10s and my smokey is Angus Bell.

 

[Show-n-go]

I think Speight should be on the wing with Koroibete, they are the two form units

I also believe we still need a backrower who is a viable lineout option (Naisarani) and another who is a real lineout option (LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) or another)

I see Samu as Hooper's understudy, unless you start budgeting to replace Hooper, we end up with another unbalanced backrow finishing games unless a unit as effective as LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) plays 80

I also see a young lock being selected, one of the baby 10s and my smokey is Angus Bell.

Two wings who can’t kick is dangerous

 

[barbarian]

I think Speight should be on the wing with Koroibete, they are the two form units
.

I still like one of my wingers to be able to kick, which is why DHP or Maddocks or Banks or Hodge are in the mix.

 

[fatprop]

I still like one of my wingers to be able to kick, which is why DHP or Maddocks or Banks or Hodge are in the mix.

Noted, but so far none of them have demonstrated any form as an actual winger this season.

We have two solid 15s, an average winger and a wounded 13/utility

 

[wamberal]

It looks as though we will lack height in the back three.

 

[Derpus]

It looks as though we will lack height in the back three.

Valetini looks like he will at least be in the discussion for 6 and he's 6'3. Harry Wilson will be in the discussion at 8 and he's also 6'3.

 

[Slim 293]

Valetini doesn't jump in the Brumbies lineout though...........

Samu is currently used as the third jumper.

 

[Dctarget]

It looks as though we will lack height in the back three.

I thought the same but earlier did some quick research of the outside backs of the other top nations. Kellaway, Banks, Speight are all similar heights or taller than Hogg, Halfpenny, Daly, May, Josh Adams, D. Mckenzie, Le Roux, Beauden Barrett (not Jordie). With DHP & Hodge taller than most of them and Maddocks taller than everyone.

 

[Dctarget]

Valetini looks like he will at least be in the discussion for 6 and he's 6'3. Harry Wilson will be in the discussion at 8 and he's also 6'3.

Assume he's talking about the outside backs?

 

[Derpus]

Do you need height to be an outside back..?