Wallabies 2020
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Jason Little (69)
Perhaps a case of quantity rather than quality.
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Desmond Connor (43)
McReight is born to be the Wallabies captain. Give him a couple of years. All class.
You still take the points, it is a test match ffs.
Have we not watched proper, winning test sides, take those points, build that score board pressure etc etc If the kicker misses, you restart and continue to build that pressure
Is it that simple? I think the art of test match rugby is to know when to take the points, and know when you have your foot on the throat of the opposition and you need to go for the kill.
Now the former scenario is far more likely than the latter scenario, but I don't think you should take the points 100% of the time. I thought Hooper judged it pretty well on Saturday, my only criticism being we might have opted for a few attacking scrums instead of lineouts.
One of the things that made McCaw a great captain (and the ABs a great team) was the ability to judge this really well. The ABs didn't always take the points, they knew when to pick their moment and put it all on the line.
I think it is, especially for this lot, it isn't like they are try scoring machines that turn attacking lineouts into automatic points
Their lineout/maul work is pretty crap
The poor calls were early in the game where it felt like we were well on top but couldn't convert it into points. We opted for lineouts a couple of times and came away with nothing.
Before halftime we turned down two wide shots, took the lineout, drew a final warning from Williams on the third penalty and then took the three that was in front of the posts heading into halftime.
The accuracy of the kicker is certainly an issue. There's no doubt we take more shots at goal from outside the 15m lines if we have a higher percentage goal kicker. Whether we should be taking those shots at goal regardless of our percentage chance of hitting them is another question altogether.
The concept that this is all just something Hooper decides on a whim is ludicrous.
Before halftime we turned down two wide shots, took the lineout, drew a final warning from Williams on the third penalty and then took the three that was in front of the posts heading into halftime.
The accuracy of the kicker is certainly an issue. There's no doubt we take more shots at goal from outside the 15m lines if we have a higher percentage goal kicker. Whether we should be taking those shots at goal regardless of our percentage chance of hitting them is another question altogether.
The concept that this is all just something Hooper decides on a whim is ludicrous.
Again though it's not that simple IMO. What if you've been attacking, you have a pen 5m out, you've just drawn a yellow card and have a dominant scrum? In that scenario it doesn't matter much whether it's the first half or not, the prudent option might be to take a scrum and try and really cash in.
It's also a big release of pressure if you take the shot at goal and miss.
I'd be really interested to see how exactly they weigh up the decisions based on the position, game situation and who our kicker is. I also wonder how much analytics has gone into that process and how much of it is around perceptions of the chance of success.
I have no doubt if we had a 90% kicker we'd be taking a shot at goal pretty much every time.
It is very clear that we aren't taking any shots at goal within 10m of the sideline.
I'd be really interested to see how exactly they weigh up the decisions based on the position, game situation and who our kicker is. I also wonder how much analytics has gone into that process and how much of it is around perceptions of the chance of success.
I have no doubt if we had a 90% kicker we'd be taking a shot at goal pretty much every time.
It is very clear that we aren't taking any shots at goal within 10m of the sideline.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Tough gig for Sir Ruchie.
Throw the ball to a 95% kicker or set up a driving line out with the best forward pack in the world?
Decisions decisions.
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Desmond Connor (43)
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David Wilson (68)
Nothing new there, Horan effectively berates RA for running out of ideas while he runs out of ideas. Most of it is obvious so you’d hope WR (World Rugby) will move that way anyway.
Domestic does allow more flexibility in changes, but what then in TT? Kiwis will do similar then negotiate a hybrid? Then to international with unmodified rules.
Personally I love the scrum. Stop the clock if needed but really it starts with the ref and what they see. Some need training to see better.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
This is another take on the same issue:
https://www.todaystale.com/northern...fixedanddoesrugbyleaguehavetheanswers-s__fdDR
If changes are made domestically and for TT - do we then get a situation where there are effectively two sets of laws the players have to remember - the domestic/TT rules and the international rules. If any changes are made, surely they have to be pushed up the top so it's an even playing field across the RU world
(apologies if derailing thread - just replied to the one above, happy for it to be moved to appropriate thread)
https://www.todaystale.com/northern...fixedanddoesrugbyleaguehavetheanswers-s__fdDR
If changes are made domestically and for TT - do we then get a situation where there are effectively two sets of laws the players have to remember - the domestic/TT rules and the international rules. If any changes are made, surely they have to be pushed up the top so it's an even playing field across the RU world
(apologies if derailing thread - just replied to the one above, happy for it to be moved to appropriate thread)
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Desmond Connor (43)
I’m torn. Agree that we need to speed aspects of the game, more so for the fans but don’t mess with our scrum. Our scrum defines our game. Maybe we need to look at the style of reffing,
To me the best thing to do with scrums is just stop the clock after a reset until the ball leaves the final scrum. Effectively you are limiting the time used for each scrum sequence to a single scrum. Everything else creates other issues.
I don't think you should tinker with the number of substitutions. There is already an issue where particular players play too many minutes across the season. Lowering the number of subs from 8 to 5 would really exacerbate that and take away development opportunities for younger players.
The changes in Super Rugby AU this year were fine because they didn't materially change the game and are easy to revert in and out of at different levels. Future changes should be along the same lines.
I don't think you should tinker with the number of substitutions. There is already an issue where particular players play too many minutes across the season. Lowering the number of subs from 8 to 5 would really exacerbate that and take away development opportunities for younger players.
The changes in Super Rugby AU this year were fine because they didn't materially change the game and are easy to revert in and out of at different levels. Future changes should be along the same lines.
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David Wilson (68)
I think our internationals can be expected to deal with different rules/interpretations. The style and nature of the game is different anyway.
I just think that RA are on it, albeit understandably considered in what the do.
Reffing is definitely an area for innovation. And the scrum a clear target.
I just think that RA are on it, albeit understandably considered in what the do.
Reffing is definitely an area for innovation. And the scrum a clear target.