Wallabies 2020

[formerflanker]

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but Wayne Smith's piece in the Australian today is troubling.
World Rugby is considering scrapping scrums and going to non-contested line outs.
Part of a package designed to get Rugby back on the park ASAP.
Those rule changes would ruin the game irreparably.
If WR (World Rugby) is serious about truncating the game to make a start-up happen quickly, all they need to do is re-start with 7s until 15s can be played.

 

[WAZA]

This is brilliant!

1 Loose head Prop: Moderately tall fat lad, often aggressive when something obstructs way to bar, pie shop and occasionally a ruck. Does weights- no one knows why

2 Hooker: short fat lad with endless capacity for cheap booze and fascinated by women miles out of his league. Believes he has rugby nous and is an athlete

3 Tight head Prop: fat lad who believes he’s technically a good player with good hands. Everyone else thinks he just gets in the way. Does weights, no one notices

4 Lock: big hard lad who thinks he’s the enforcer. Police describe him as hooligan. Wears shorts and flip flops all year round, lives with his mum

5 Lock: Giraffe, looks funny when he runs. Long arms useful in bar, takes up too much space. Often very fit and yet last to arrive at breakdown

6 Blindside flanker: proper hard man, can disappear for 80 minutes but emerge holding someone’s scrotum. Never buys a round

7 Openside flanker: glory boy often with psychotic tendencies. Will spend a lot of time in A&E but when present can carry a team. Often unpopular or young. Or both

8 Number 8: big bastard; talks a good game and describes himself as a footballer. Often vain, sometimes scruffy, generally can’t hold their drink and have weird hobbies or jobs. Handy in a scuffle but best avoided socially.

9 scrum half. Gobby midget who can get himself into trouble marginally faster than he can run away from it. Nothing is his fault. Good drinker

10 fly half: there are two sorts, running or kicking. Generally they don’t know which one they are until it’s too late. Unusually nice hair and over confident in every situation until it’s too late.

11 left wing: lanky speed merchant. Can’t catch. Live in a world of their own and always forget one item of kit, often boots

12 inside centre: often the best player on the pitch as well as the fittest. Limited social skills and terrified of women until the beer kicks in

13 outside centre: does everything the 12 doesn’t. Socially active and often juggling multiple women. Has nice car, good job and demanding fitness regime as well as extensive debts and improbably large porn collection

14 right wing: the only reason he doesn’t score 10 tries in every game is because no one can pass. Often a big lad who really looks the part and yet never quite has the impact you hope for. Doesn’t drink

15 full back: 90% of them should be shot at dawn for cowardice. Last line of defence my arse. Secretly want to play at 10 and buys the skipper lots of pints. Too many hair products but useful source of spare socks and toiletries at away games.

 

[WAZA]

Found this on facebook but had to share it !

Cheers

Waza

 

[Derpus]

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but Wayne Smith's piece in the Australian today is troubling.
World Rugby is considering scrapping scrums and going to non-contested line outs.
Part of a package designed to get Rugby back on the park ASAP.
Those rule changes would ruin the game irreparably.
If WR (World Rugby) is serious about truncating the game to make a start-up happen quickly, all they need to do is re-start with 7s until 15s can be played.

The Australian is fucking garbage asspaper.

I don't see how scrapping scrums or lineouts would help bring a restart forward?

 

[formerflanker]

The Australian is fucking garbage asspaper.

I don't see how scrapping scrums or lineouts would help bring a restart forward?

Less face-to-face contact = lower risk of passing germs between players.
Or so they say!

 

[cyclopath]

This is brilliant!

1 Loose head Prop: Moderately tall fat lad, often aggressive when something obstructs way to bar, pie shop and occasionally a ruck. Does weights- no one knows why

2 Hooker: short fat lad with endless capacity for cheap booze and fascinated by women miles out of his league. Believes he has rugby nous and is an athlete

3 Tight head Prop: fat lad who believes he’s technically a good player with good hands. Everyone else thinks he just gets in the way. Does weights, no one notices

4 Lock: big hard lad who thinks he’s the enforcer. Police describe him as hooligan. Wears shorts and flip flops all year round, lives with his mum

5 Lock: Giraffe, looks funny when he runs. Long arms useful in bar, takes up too much space. Often very fit and yet last to arrive at breakdown

6 Blindside flanker: proper hard man, can disappear for 80 minutes but emerge holding someone’s scrotum. Never buys a round

7 Openside flanker: glory boy often with psychotic tendencies. Will spend a lot of time in A&E but when present can carry a team. Often unpopular or young. Or both

8 Number 8: big bastard; talks a good game and describes himself as a footballer. Often vain, sometimes scruffy, generally can’t hold their drink and have weird hobbies or jobs. Handy in a scuffle but best avoided socially.

9 scrum half. Gobby midget who can get himself into trouble marginally faster than he can run away from it. Nothing is his fault. Good drinker

10 fly half: there are two sorts, running or kicking. Generally they don’t know which one they are until it’s too late. Unusually nice hair and over confident in every situation until it’s too late.

11 left wing: lanky speed merchant. Can’t catch. Live in a world of their own and always forget one item of kit, often boots

12 inside centre: often the best player on the pitch as well as the fittest. Limited social skills and terrified of women until the beer kicks in

13 outside centre: does everything the 12 doesn’t. Socially active and often juggling multiple women. Has nice car, good job and demanding fitness regime as well as extensive debts and improbably large porn collection

14 right wing: the only reason he doesn’t score 10 tries in every game is because no one can pass. Often a big lad who really looks the part and yet never quite has the impact you hope for. Doesn’t drink

15 full back: 90% of them should be shot at dawn for cowardice. Last line of defence my arse. Secretly want to play at 10 and buys the skipper lots of pints. Too many hair products but useful source of spare socks and toiletries at away games.

Like it!
I was mostly a 12.
First point - not really in the teams in which I played
Second point - in the mix
Third point - bang on!

 

[Froggy]

I played 7, and, in my own case, could add to those points ie not big or strong enough for the tight five, too slow for the outside backs, not skillful enough for the inside backs. Try to do the skipper's tackling for him so you're in the side for next week.

 

[formerflanker]

Like it!
I was mostly a 12.

When reading this I assumed you were self identifying: inside centre: often the best player on the pitch as well as the fittest.

 

[Up the Guts]

15 full back: Last line of defence my arse.

Everyone who has ever played at 15 knows if you miss a routine cover tackle that leads to a try you jog back to the huddle behind the goal posts demanding to know how the opposition broke the line and who was responsible for missing the first up tackle. Proceed to apply the blowtorch to the offending players as if you didn't just do your best turnstile impression.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

I played all three positions in the back row so I guess I'm an amalgam of those descriptions! Also the giraffe lock with the funny running gait.

 

[Braveheart81]

1 Loose head Prop: Moderately tall fat lad
5 Lock: Giraffe, looks funny when he runs. Long arms useful in bar, takes up too much space.

This was me. Unsurprisingly I wasn't a very good player. Pretty useful in the bar though.

 

[upthereds#!]

If we get to play a test this year - based on current eligibility this is my squad. (34 in 2019)

With the recent changes at lock, it was tempting to let Phillips play even though he was leaving, however I resisted this. However I did include (painfully) Simmons who is around next year, as in Roddas absence, now Hockings, there is no clear lineout leader, but predominately I think in a group of 4, Simmons would be of great value in the environment from a learning perspective, and equal value on the field as Swain, or Neville (who is currently not signed for next year.)

1. Sio 2. Fainga'a 3. Ala'alatoa
4. Simmons 5.LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)
6. Wilson 8. Naisarani 7. Hoops
9. Powell 10. To'omua 11. Koroibete 12. JOC (James O'Connor) 13. TK 14. DHP 15. Banks
16. Uelese 17. Slipper 18. Thor 19. Blyth 20. Valetini 21. Samu 22. Mcdermott 23. Hodge


24. Mafi 25. Bell 26. Swain 27. Wright 28. Gordon 29. Lolosio 30. Simone 31. Petaia 32. Campbell 33. Daugunu 34?

Note 1. I put Samu over Wright as I think Hoops will be an 80min player, and Samu IMO would be more suitable to an impact role, both physically and in terms of experience.

Note 2. I'd happily start Valetini and Blyth, but I am concerned about the lineout.

Note 3. White is still in England so not sure what's happening there.

Note 4. No idea how Petais injury is progressing, would have him over Hodge.

 

[dru]

I played 7, and, in my own case, could add to those points ie not big or strong enough for the tight five, too slow for the outside backs, not skillful enough for the inside backs. Try to do the skipper's tackling for him so you're in the side for next week.

I resemble that remark!

 

[Up the Guts]

If we get to play a test this year - based on current eligibility this is my squad. (34 in 2019)

With the recent changes at lock, it was tempting to let Phillips play even though he was leaving, however I resisted this. However I did include (painfully) Simmons who is around next year, as in Roddas absence, now Hockings, there is no clear lineout leader, but predominately I think in a group of 4, Simmons would be of great value in the environment from a learning perspective, and equal value on the field as Swain, or Neville (who is currently not signed for next year.)

1. Sio 2. Fainga'a 3. Ala'alatoa
4. Simmons 5.LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)
6. Wilson 8. Naisarani 7. Hoops
9. Powell 10. To'omua 11. Koroibete 12. JOC (James O'Connor) 13. TK 14. DHP 15. Banks
16. Uelese 17. Slipper 18. Thor 19. Blyth 20. Valetini 21. Samu 22. Mcdermott 23. Hodge


24. Mafi 25. Bell 26. Swain 27. Wright 28. Gordon 29. Lolosio 30. Simone 31. Petaia 32. Campbell 33. Daugunu 34?

Note 1. I put Samu over Wright as I think Hoops will be an 80min player, and Samu IMO would be more suitable to an impact role, both physically and in terms of experience.

Note 2. I'd happily start Valetini and Blyth, but I am concerned about the lineout.

Note 3. White is still in England so not sure what's happening there.

Note 4. No idea how Petais injury is progressing, would have him over Hodge.

Do you see any difference between JOC (James O'Connor) and MT at 10 and 12 or just a coin flip with them likely interchanging at first receiver throughout the game anyway?

Tom Wright and Andrew Kellaway get in ahead of Campbell and Daugunu, imo. If Petaia is fit enough to be on the bench then I'd prefer to have him at 14 over DHP.

 

[dru]

Do you see any difference between JOC (James O'Connor) and MT at 10 and 12 or just a coin flip with them likely interchanging at first receiver throughout the game anyway?

Tom Wright and Andrew Kellaway get in ahead of Campbell and Daugunu, imo. If Petaia is fit enough to be on the bench then I'd prefer to have him at 14 over DHP.

There needs to be a wider group new generation 10 in the squad. Probably Lolesio. And with that in place I'd like him given a go at 23.

And I'd swap To'omua and JOC (James O'Connor), in fact I'm not sure about To'omua at 12.

 

[upthereds#!]

Do you see any difference between JOC (James O'Connor) and MT at 10 and 12 or just a coin flip with them likely interchanging at first receiver throughout the game anyway?

Tom Wright and Andrew Kellaway get in ahead of Campbell and Daugunu, imo. If Petaia is fit enough to be on the bench then I'd prefer to have him at 14 over DHP.

Coin flip 10/12

I like Wright, but he can't regularly start at the Brumbies so can't see it just yet.

I'm a big fan of someone who has positional nous and can kick in the back 3 to support the FB. Campbell, Kellaway can do this also, but not sure if Petaia can.

Daugunu to me gets in the 34 because A) he has a long term, expensive contract, and B) he is a like for like replacement for Koroibete. Perhaps Vunivalu will replace him in the next couple years, but I always feel we need to have 2 options for strike, power running wings.

 

[upthereds#!]

There needs to be a wider group new generation 10 in the squad. Probably Lolesio. And with that in place I'd like him given a go at 23.

And I'd swap To'omua and JOC (James O'Connor), in fact I'm not sure about To'omua at 12.

I've got Lolosio in the squad. Whether its 34 or 31, he's in mine. But I wouldn't have him on the bench at the expense of a 6/2 split which I think our squad suits. Not when both JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua are already out there.

 

[Slim 293]

Coin flip 10/12

I like Wright, but he can't regularly start at the Brumbies so can't see it just yet.

I'm a big fan of someone who has positional nous and can kick in the back 3 to support the FB. Campbell, Kellaway can do this also, but not sure if Petaia can.

Daugunu to me gets in the 34 because A) he has a long term, expensive contract, and B) he is a like for like replacement for Koroibete. Perhaps Vunivalu will replace him in the next couple years, but I always feel we need to have 2 options for strike, power running wings.

Wright didn’t start every game due to the mumps, but he was included in Rennie’s squad.............

I wouldn’t have thought Campbell was in the mix? On form he wouldn’t be ahead of Kellaway, Wright etc

 

[cyclopath]

When reading this I assumed you were self identifying: inside centre: often the best player on the pitch as well as the fittest.

No. Not the best, maybe one of the fittest. And limited social skills etc........

 

[Rebels3]

Wright didn’t start every game due to the mumps, but he was included in Rennie’s squad.....

I wouldn’t have thought Campbell was in the mix? On form he wouldn’t be ahead of Kellaway, Wright etc

As a neutral in this discussion I’d be taking Campbell over Wright for wallabies atm, Campbell has put together a couple of matches where he’s been arguably the best player on the field, whereas Wright has had some good cameos off the bench. He’s got talent but would be well down the winger rankings in my eyes atm.