Wales vs Springbokke

[PaarlBok]

Bokke struggled past Italy on the weekend. The last test is going to be tough as nails. Luckily no chicken runners , so hopefull we'll have some new energy in the team. How Heyneke "malkoei siekte" Meyer can pick Johan Goosen/Guthro Steenkamp in a Bok team is beyond me. Lambie not a test 10, Carr & Pollard must start. How Meyer can release Senatla to the 7s? Hell another missed oppertunity.

 

[Cardiffblue]

And here's hoping gatland can pick them up to same levels as last Saturday.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Gonna be a while before my curve goes upwards after last weekend

 

[Blue]

How on earth does Gatland still have his job?

 

[Cardiffblue]

How on earth does Gatland still have his job?

Cos of what?

 

[Blue]

Cos of what?

He's uhm, pretty crap?

Mr Excuse. It's always someone else's fault.

He has some good talent. Really good talent. Never really seems to get them to fire consistently. 2012 was a shining light but let's face it that year Ireland was shocking and England didn't know it's arse from its elbow.

I am yet to come across a Welshman who has a good thing to say about him. Is that about to change?

Surely has has the worst win/loss record of any international coach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Gatland#Wales

0% agains the SH teams
Crap record against the other home nations.

He has had an awfully long run for such a poor record.

Oh and he is in a class of his own when it comes to poor excuses.

Wales have pushed SA close every year for a long time now. Maybe this year it will change? We look tired and disjointed. A clever game plan that puts pressure on Reinach is away to beat us at the moment. Rush him and make him kick more. Wales tries to beat us with bravado and chest beating. they have the tools to beat us but Gatland doesn't seem to know how.

 

[Cardiffblue]

I was kind of following the argument til you got to the bit about crap record against home nations. Then you lost me.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Look, ch has his faults. His obsession in picking 9-10 based purely on size is the biggest. His dogmatic plan for substitutes is mind numbing. But the idea that he has any influence on Wales not holding their nerve to close out games against Sh teams is ludicrous. And the welsh you've spoken to might consider the looney bin that is welsh rugby vs wru is what holds us back far more than ch.

 

[cyclopath]

Look, ch has his faults. His obsession in picking 9-10 based purely on size is the biggest. His dogmatic plan for substitutes is mind numbing. But the idea that he has any influence on Wales not holding their nerve to close out games against Sh teams is ludicrous

I don't know, I think a lot of pundits would place the coach at the forefront of developing systems, game plans and substitution plans to give the team the tools and belief to close out games. Sure the individuals have a role, but so too the coach. And he's had a good run at it with Wales. I think he has to bear some of the "blame".


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[Cardiffblue]

Thanks for your views. You're wrong

 

[cyclopath]

Thanks for your views. You're wrong

Because? You like to chuck plenty of free advice around, but that's all you've got? I went to a talk by David Kirk. He explained the reason the ABs have that belief to close games is that everyone clearly knows their job, where they fit in the system, and focuses on executing their job and trusting that others do the same. This comes from the systems put in place by the coaching team. I reckon he might know more about winning tight matches than you.
But please enlighten us.


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[Cardiffblue]

Wales have pushed SA close every year for a long time now. Maybe this year it will change? We look tired and disjointed. A clever game plan that puts pressure on Reinach is away to beat us at the moment. Rush him and make him kick more. Wales tries to beat us with bravado and chest beating. they have the tools to beat us but Gatland doesn't seem to know how.

Moving along. I'm fascinated to know why you think the wheels have fallen off sa. Watched the all blacks games this season and the game against orcland. They were like clash of the Titans. What's going wrong?

 

[cyclopath]

Ha. Thought as much.


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[Cardiffblue]

Please don't take my silence as validictory. Don't think a debate based on my source is bigger than yours would get us anywhere

 

[PaarlBok]

Wales by 50.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Wales by 50.

Wtf? Why?

 

[Cardiffblue]

Well this is weird. Never been in position of thinking more of the opposition than their own supporters!

Cmon bois. Our record against South Africa is worse than against New Zealand! If you carry on like this the optimism gnome will be back

 

[PaarlBok]

Wtf? Why?

Bokke wont be able to pick chicken runners.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Have you lost any forwards too? - says he hopefully. Etzebeth matfield and vermeulen would be three that come to mind.

And I'm glad to learn what mad cow disease is in Afrikaans. Can't think when I'm going to use it tho.

Clefyd y gwartheg gwallgof if you ever want to describe Meyer when in Wales

 

[PaarlBok]

Clefyd y gwartheg gwallgof

I love your language when I visited WC final in 1999.

Chicken runnin Bokke are
Bakkies Botha (Toulon, France) - Lock, 83 Test caps
Schalk Burger (Suntory, Japan) - Loose forward, 73 Test caps
Johan Goosen (Racing Metro, France) - Fullback / Flyhalf, 5 Test caps
Bryan Habana (Toulon, France) - Wing, 103 Test caps
Ruan Pienaar (Ulster, N Ireland) - Scrumhalf, 80 Test caps
JP Pietersen (Panasonic, Japan) - Centre / Wing, 56 Test caps
Gurthrö Steenkamp (Toulouse, France) - Prop, 52 Test caps
Morné Steyn (Stade Francais, France) - Flyhalf, 59 Test caps
& Vermaak
They are useless anyways. would love to see some young blood vs Wallis.

Our lot is tired and dead, cant see them getting close to the deadly Red Dragons.