Wales v Australia, Monday 18 November 3:10am AEDT

[HogansHeros]

That was my point -- it literally only requires 2 people, the hooker and JAS, and perhaps an hour or so to run a validity test of it. If JAS is contesting the ball over someone like George Ford or Marcus Smith, it's a no brainer.

The opposition to it (e.g. the likes on Bravehearts) post reflects how conservative we are in Australian rugby.

Id say the way the wobs have been playing hasnt been conservative recently.

 

[dru]

That was my point -- it literally only requires 2 people, the hooker and JAS, and perhaps an hour or so to run a validity test of it. If JAS is contesting the ball over someone like George Ford or Marcus Smith, it's a no brainer.

The opposition to it (e.g. the likes on Bravehearts) post reflects how conservative we are in Australian rugby.

No it fucking doesn't. If it is their throw, the idea that JAS can read the play and the throw and get the position right to attack the throw - is just fanciful.

I'm presuming you are thinking about our throw. And as JAS enters the lineout, what do you think the opposition is thinking? The throw must be perfect, but you still are not going to have any surprise. The defending lineout will place one spot in front, sitting back and follow the throw. What are you talking about with Smith/Ford - when were they last in a line out? JAS would have Itoje/Kolisi slotting in front of him. Heck even LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto).

AN hour of training? Fuck me.

I might add, JAS was apparently an u14 high jumper. Certainly his dynamic jumping is fabulous. That is not how jumping in the line out works. Talk to a Volleyballer.

 

[pissedoffihavetoregister]

I have always thought It sounds like a good idea to put the tallest, skinniest guys in your team in the lineout on your throw. If it means you would win your own ball more often and take the pressure off having to selecting tall light second rowers and back rowers then it could be a good thing.

 

[Micheal]

No it fucking doesn't. If it is their throw, the idea that JAS can read the play and the throw and get the position right to attack the throw - is just fanciful.

I'm presuming you are thinking about our throw. And as JAS enters the lineout, what do you think the opposition is thinking? The throw must be perfect, but you still are not going to have any surprise. The defending lineout will place one spot in front, sitting back and follow the throw. What are you talking about with Smith/Ford - when were they last in a line out? JAS would have Itoje/Kolisi slotting in front of him. Heck even LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto).

AN hour of training? Fuck me.

I might add, JAS was apparently an u14 high jumper. Certainly his dynamic jumping is fabulous. That is not how jumping in the line out works. Talk to a Volleyballer.

What are you on about?

Read my post - I clearly specified that JAS is not in the line out for the play I envisioned. He’d line up at 10 and they’d throw high and long, similar to when teams try to bring a winger into the game with an overthrow.

How can you possibly get so fired up by a post you so clearly didn’t even read?

Regardless, it was just a fun idea and thought exercise.

Was hoping for more than to get rebuked by someone who doesn’t understand the laws, and then someone who didn’t read my post.

Let’s move on

 

[KOB1987]

Rhino's AI algorithm has disintegrated to the point of literally rewording the exact same detail of the post it is responding to.

 

[Dctarget]

Wales team to face Australia​

Winnett; Rogers, Llewellyn, B Thomas, Murray; Anscombe, Bevan; G Thomas, Lake (capt), Griffin, Rowlands, Beard, Botham, Morgan, Wainwright.

Replacements: Elias, N Smith, Assiratti, Tshiunza, Reffell, R Williams, Costelow, James.

 

[Dctarget]

If you ignore Anscombe, the backs have 21 caps between them. Very green backline.

 

[Strewthcobber]

When is Schmidt announcing the Wallaby side? Presumably at 1:30am tomorrow morning?

 

[Dctarget]

When is Schmidt announcing the Wallaby side? Presumably at 1:30am tomorrow morning?

It’s a Monday morning game so he could even do it Saturday 1:30am. Which means I have to debate on forums on my own goddamn time and not work’s, would be very selfish of him.

 

[Slim 293]

Cool, two more days of whether or not JAS can jump in the lineout...

 

[hawko07]

I have always thought It sounds like a good idea to put the tallest, skinniest guys in your team in the lineout on your throw. If it means you would win your own ball more often and take the pressure off having to selecting tall light second rowers and back rowers then it could be a good thing.

And what about securing the ball? Setting up an attacking maul? Maul defence?

 

[Braveheart81]

Wales team to face Australia​

Winnett; Rogers, Llewellyn, B Thomas, Murray; Anscombe, Bevan; G Thomas, Lake (capt), Griffin, Rowlands, Beard, Botham, Morgan, Wainwright.

Replacements: Elias, N Smith, Assiratti, Tshiunza, Reffell, R Williams, Costelow, James.

A Wales team with only one Williams and not a single Jones? Even with two Thomas' I'm not sure I can take this team seriously.

 

[Wilson]

A Wales team with only one Williams and not a single Jones? Even with two Thomas' I'm not sure I can take this team seriously.

Surely a Llewellyn at centre counts for something

 

[stillmissit]

So we get back to this...
competition for a long throw you are surely doing something wrong.

There is always competition for the long throw, if it hits the ground it is anyone's. This is the main reason why it is used only when your lineout is getting done or surprise option similar to short throw.

 

[Ras]

Please stop discussing our singular capped outside centre becoming a lineout jumper.

Lineouts are won with variation, speed along the ground and fully completed lifts. Not an U14 high jumping prospect

 

[LeCheese]

Please stop discussing our singular capped outside centre becoming a lineout jumper.

Lineouts are won with variation

I mean, is there a wilder variation than throwing a centre in the lineout in his second ever professional rugby match?

Hold on, I think that could be Rassie on the phone...

 

[Sully]

Rhino's AI algorithm has disintegrated to the point of literally rewording the exact same detail of the post it is responding to.

If you don't like what a porer is posting go to their profile and hit the fucking ignore button, don't come into threads they haven't posted in and talk shit about them.

This is a warning from now on any negative comments about other forum members will result in warnings and points.

 

[The Red Baron]

Well seeing as Wilson is out, I reckon we can move Valetini to 8, Jeremy Williams to 6 and JAS can slot into the vacant second row slot. Ikitau can move back to 13, Kerevi can then start at 12, and JAS can be utilised as a lineout jumper.

Everyone's happy then.

 

[Spamnoodle]

Please stop discussing our singular capped outside centre becoming a lineout jumper.

Lineouts are won with variation, speed along the ground and fully completed lifts. Not an U14 high jumping prospect

Yep, it's pretty dismissive of the hard work put in by the forwards week in week out.

 

[Ignoto]

Please stop discussing our singular capped outside centre becoming a lineout jumper.

Lineouts are won with variation, speed along the ground and fully completed lifts. Not an U14 high jumping prospect

Don't worry Ras, they're all a bunch of backs that drop balls during their uncontested "shadow" plays.

Us forwards need to look out for each other, the backs don't realise every seat piece requires us to shift large volumes of weight either horizontally or vertically.