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Spook

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Nick Mallet played Mauro Bergamasco (a flanker) at scrum half for Italy in this year's 6Nations. It was a monumental failure.
 
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rugbywhisperer

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For me it would be to have Naza as webmaster with PB as special consultant for international affairs.
Scarfie would have course have to become subservient to these two for obvious reasons. :fishing :lmao: :lmao:
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
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Toutai Kefu I believe played inside centre with brother Steve for one match.

Yup, I believe it was against the Barbarians. Pretty much Steve was the only centre standing, too, so older brother Toutai stepped in. Not so big a stretch though, as Toutai played centre in his younger years and then was converted to 8. Funny how many converted centres have made some good representative 8s, like T. Kefu, Jim Williams, John Roe (admittedly a former 5/8).

T. Kefu and S. Kefu wasn't really an effective combination in that game, though. I also couldn't work out why Toutai was at 12 and Steve at 13, as I thought they should've been the other way round. The only thing I could think of is that they were worried about Toutai's defence at 13.
 

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Desmond Connor (43)
Matt Gitteau to fullback; Nathan Sharpe to lock (don't know why tis wasn't tried earlier as a guy who is over 2m shouldn't be playing centre); Kurtley Beale to halfback.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
Elsom to lock.
Seriously, if any of a number of new emerging Australian 6s get any good or maybe even if Robbie wants a Pocock/Smith combination (which he was desperate to find with the "Smith to 8" experiment).
We have no good locks and we have an aggressive 6 with a lock-like build. Surely he could scrum. Surely.
This should be tried even if its just as a late substitution thing.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
elsom to eight? palu to bench/blindside? please. if this is wrong/impossible, tell us how come
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
How could you improve a back row of Palu, Elsom, Pocock/Smith?

Why would you want to reduce the quality of that back row?
 

Novocastrian

Herbert Moran (7)
Biffo said:
How could you improve a back row of Palu, Elsom, Pocock/Smith?

Why would you want to reduce the quality of that back row?

Exactly, that backrow has it all - a number 8 who can knock the ball on 10 times for every big hit or run he makes, a 6 who can fall off tackles and get driven back in contact 10 times for every opposition lineout he nabs or break he makes at outside centre and (at least in the case of Smith) a 7 who jumps in at flyhalf or throws a chip kick in 10 times for every pilfer he gets at the breakdown. What more could you want! :thumb
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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OK Novo. We'll go with Houston, Hoiles and Brown then. Those three names just scream dynamism.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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I had to chuckle when Brown talked about Palu winning Brown's number 8 Wallaby position off him fair and square - as if it was fucking his!

You gotta say though, at least he managed to catch an infection.
 
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TOCC

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getting a bit off topic, but australia seems to have a very good depth of blindside locks coming through, Hodgson, Higgingbotham and Mowen all made massive strides in 2009, another thing is that they all seem to play a slightly different style of game as well, i expect all of them to be pressing extremely hard for wallaby jerseys in 2010.

Add to that the likes of Chapman, Dennis and Brown and i think we are pretty well covered in the department for the next couple of years. Oh and who could forget our Captain Rocky Elsom.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
TOCC said:
getting a bit off topic, but australia seems to have a very good depth of blindside locks coming through, Hodgson, Higgingbotham and Mowen all made massive strides in 2009, another thing is that they all seem to play a slightly different style of game as well, i expect all of them to be pressing extremely hard for wallaby jerseys in 2010.

Add to that the likes of Chapman, Dennis and Brown and i think we are pretty well covered in the department for the next couple of years. Oh and who could forget our Captain Rocky Elsom.

I advise a little conservatism in the matter of blindside flankers. When Rocky went to Leinster this board was full of opinions - as I have repeatedly pointed out - to the effect "who cares, we've got Mumm, McMinimum and Higginbum". Those who didn't care should have cared, as events showed.

The players you name have some potential, but judgement that Hodgson, Higginbum and Mowen "made massive strides in 2009" is a more than a little rose-tinted.

Genuine high-class international blindside flankers are very rare.

PS, what is a "blindside lock"?
 

Novocastrian

Herbert Moran (7)
barbarian said:
OK Novo. We'll go with Houston, Hoiles and Brown then. Those three names just scream dynamism.

Far from it, the Palu/Elsom/Smith combo is the best we have, it's just unfortunate that generally they aren't that good on the Int'l stage. Obviously Smith's a world class player when he sticks to his job, but while the other 2 have occasional flashes of brilliance they simply don't consistently put in performances that make you think - wow, he's close to the best in the world at his position. Palu has tit's for hands and Elsom wouldn't intimidate an 80kg back most of the time.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Novocastrian said:
barbarian said:
OK Novo. We'll go with Houston, Hoiles and Brown then. Those three names just scream dynamism.

Far from it, the Palu/Elsom/Smith combo is the best we have, it's just unfortunate that generally they aren't that good on the Int'l stage. Obviously Smith's a world class player when he sticks to his job, but while the other 2 have occasional flashes of brilliance they simply don't consistently put in performances that make you think - wow, he's close to the best in the world at his position. Palu has tit's for hands and Elsom wouldn't intimidate an 80kg back most of the time.

I think to say that they aren't that good on the world stage is a bit off the mark. Did you watch the EOYT? Whilst I wouldn't select them in a World XV they would certainly be in the top 3 or 4 in their position. The match stats show Elsom is a workhorse and Palu can be destructive at his best, although at times inconsistent.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
The players you name have some potential, but judgement that Hodgson, Higginbum and Mowen "made massive strides in 2009" is a more than a little rose-tinted.

Higginbotham did make massive strides early in 2009 and was one of the form 6s of the tournament. Unfortunately he also made massive strides backwards in the second half of the S15 season.

Hodgson made massive strides in that he went from not being even thought about for Australian selection to playing the first game.

And you could argue that Mowen was better than both of these guys over the S15 season.

So big strides - yes, however are any of the above likely to make a world class standard - probably not. Hodgson is 28 and Mowen is 25. At 23 you'd probably say that Higginbotham has the most potential to improve.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Cameron Shepherd too slow to play 15, or wing.

Let's move him to 12. He has certain play making capabilities as shown from fullback. Decent kicking game and he's solid enough.

Thus allow JOC (James O'Connor) to play 15, Cross at 13 with Andre the non-giant at 10.
 
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