Uni vs Wicks

[farva]

Is this on FTA tv?

 

[Gnostic]

Is this on FTA tv?

Aunty is showing it it NSW.

 

[wamberal]

Well to all you whingers as I posted above and said in the past, Randwick attracts players and builds it depth because people want to play with successful clubs. Randwicks success is not due to poaching or big name players, the whole system and traditions of the Club ensure their success, not that I am biased or anything.

Eastwood thrashed you guys twice during the regular season, and only just got pipped on the weekend, notwithstanding all your "unpoached" stars. How many games has Maninoa played for you? Pathetic, dragging in players from interstate just to play in the finals. Absolutely pathetic. Some of the real Randwick names of yesteryear must cringe with embarrassment.

The Shute Shield has really become a tawdry exhibition of short-sighted self-interest. Clubs like Randwick and Uni already have a lot of inbuilt advantages, particularly in being close to the CBD with lots of support. Why don't you grow up, and grow some balls?

 

[chief]

I will repeat what I've said all year. ABC are not showing this match in QLD, I will have to watch a Replay on Iview, which I probably won't getting around to doing. At least show the final on ABC like they used to.

 

[en_force_er]

Maninoa has gone os - France, I believe.

To play professionally?

What country was he capped for? Samoa?

 

[Gnostic]

Eastwood thrashed you guys twice during the regular season, and only just got pipped on the weekend, notwithstanding all your "unpoached" stars. How many games has Maninoa played for you? Pathetic, dragging in players from interstate just to play in the finals. Absolutely pathetic. Some of the real Randwick names of yesteryear must cringe with embarrassment.

The Shute Shield has really become a tawdry exhibition of short-sighted self-interest. Clubs like Randwick and Uni already have a lot of inbuilt advantages, particularly in being close to the CBD with lots of support. Why don't you grow up, and grow some balls?

Wamberal I refer you back to my original post, so don't whinge further.

 

[#1 Tah]

I will be at the game, but dont have a fancy phone so no interweb coverage from me. even if i did i find that using the live call/tweeting quite distracting from the game.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Jesus, this whole issue with rockstars in one week and out the next must frustrate the bejesus out of the coaches who are keen to have a stable game plan executed by players who are completely across the coaches game plan, as opposed the 'tahs, brumbies, or wobs game plan.

Still, guess it is no different to pulling a hammy is it. Whether the rockstar is out injured, or in France on contract, makes no difference to the starting team list. If the bloke is unable to be at Concord Oval at 2pm on Saturday through whatever reason, then he will not be taking place in the starting XV at 3pm.

You have to feel for the Manly's and Eastwood's who have been like diesol engines all year. Solid, reliable, unspectacular, but predictable. They miss out on the big show 'cause of fly by night showponies ursurping them one off. Them's the rules. If you don't like them, then change the rules before the season starts.

 

[topo]

Jesus, this whole issue with rockstars in one week and out the next must frustrate the bejesus out of the coaches who are keen to have a stable game plan executed by players who are completely across the coaches game plan, as opposed the 'tahs, brumbies, or wobs game plan.

Still, guess it is no different to pulling a hammy is it. Whether the rockstar is out injured, or in France on contract, makes no difference to the starting team list. If the bloke is unable to be at Concord Oval at 2pm on Saturday through whatever reason, then he will not be taking place in the starting XV at 3pm.

You have to feel for the Manly's and Eastwood's who have been like diesol engines all year. Solid, reliable, unspectacular, but predictable. They miss out on the big show 'cause of fly by night showponies ursurping them one off. Them's the rules. If you don't like them, then change the rules before the season starts.

Uni's team is hardly fly by night one off blow ins. They have won their last 12 on the trot. Burgess is in because Phipps is off to Delhi, otherwise he would be on the bench. Barnes is there because Hangers is injured and we have struggled for a 5/8 all year. Last year Uni started all their Wallaby rock stars off the bench in favour of the regulars. Dave McDuling and Sam Carter can feel a bit hard done by as they have played first grade all year only to lose their spots at the end to Mumm and McCalman, but they know the deal and I bet you won't see them changing clubs.

 

[Gnostic]

Just like the Wicks Topo, they did enough through the year with an injury ravaged squad using basically two full teams in first grade due to injury and still managed to make the 6.

Who are the real "superstar" ring ins in the Wicks? This week Mitchell and Beale, who played for Randwick when released from Wallaby duty prior to the finals. Elsom last week who would have to rate a real ring in since he had only ever played 1 previous 1st grade game for the club. Chis played when fit. That's it for Wallabies this year. Kepu hasn't been in the Wallaby squad this year and has played every game when fit for the Wicks so not a ring in. Maninoa a ring in? Maybe he was recruited to cover the injury problems mid year but to call him a superstar is a bit rich only four weeks ago people were asking who is he.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Yeah I'm struggling to find the outrage here. Both clubs have had to test their depth this year, especially Randwick. What was it, something like 60 players in the first grade team this season? The fact that all four grades are in the GF notwithstanding all that is a fair effort. I will say, however, that I would have loved to have seen Eastwood get to the GF and win it this year, as they've been bloody good all season. The Uni and Randwick teams have a lot of rep players, but not necessarily test players. That's to be expected I think, given the quality of the playing lists they routinely put out. Good players get picked up by S14/15 teams.

 

[DPK]

Well said TheBH. I'd add that it will be good to see the club players learning from playing with Aus/Super players, as well as combining with them.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

You have to feel for the Manly's and Eastwood's who have been like diesol engines all year. Solid, reliable, unspectacular, but predictable. They miss out on the big show 'cause of fly by night showponies ursurping them one off. Them's the rules. If you don't like them, then change the rules before the season starts.

The problem with the semis was Manly. They lost 4 of their last 6 games and only beat lowly Penrith and injury-riddled Randwick with nothing to play for. They then played terribly against Randwick in the semi. Had they won that semi against Randwick (with no Beale, Mitchell or Elsom), they would have played Souths in the SF and we would have seen a new side in the GF. It would have been harsh on the minor premiers Eastwood to face Uni but in hindsight, I don't have much sympathy as they were not able to beat the supposedly easier opponent in Randwick. If memory serves me correctly, Manly lost their last 6 games last year.

 

[Gnostic]

Bump for the only game in Oz worth watching this weekend.

Anybody disagree with my head to head posted on page one.

 

[#1 Tah]

Josh Valentine is out. Broke his foot making the video.

 

[Bruce Ross]

Anybody disagree with my head to head posted on page one.

The part of your evaluation that most surprised me, Gnostic, was:

9. Phibbs V Burgess - Uni
10. Browne V Burgess - Uni

I would expect that Burgess will have quite enough to do countering Phibbs without giving him the added responsibility of playing 10. I know he likes to run laterally but it would be a dangerous experiment in a Grand Final.

In any case I think the Uni coaches have been reasonably satisfied with Barnes in the quarterback role.

 

[Gnostic]

The part of your evaluation that most surprised me, Gnostic, was:



I would expect that Burgess will have quite enough to do countering Phibbs without giving him the added responsibility of playing 10. I know he likes to run laterally but it would be a dangerous experiment in a Grand Final.

In any case I think the Uni coaches have been reasonably satisfied with Barnes in the quarterback role.

:lmao:

Only one to pick it up. I knew what I meant and everybody else read it that way as well obviously. No other issues then. Should be a cracking game and in all honesty with no bias, in the GF this year the Wicks are the only team I can see beating Uni.

 

[Gnostic]

Shute Shield is all that's good about club rugby
Spiro Zavos
October 2, 2010



On June 5, 1922, a young prop, playing for the Rest of NSW XV against a NSW XV that had just returned from a tour of New Zealand, was tackled and fell heavily on a rock-hard Manly Oval. The player was Robert Shute, aged 23, a third-year student at Sydney University who had served for four years in the AIF.

He never recovered consciousness from the tackle and died the next day. The Sydney University Football Club donated a shield to the NSW Rugby Union in his memory to be used as perpetual trophy for the Sydney first grade competition. This year's finalists, Randwick and Sydney University, are the two most successful teams in Sydney grade rugby. They meet this afternoon at Concord Oval.

There is a great deal of angst in the Sydney rugby world, or at least in certain quarters of it, that it is not good for the grade competition to have two sides that are so dominant. The best response to this sort of misguided criticism is to point to the successful records of the two clubs. They are both determined to be great clubs. This pursuit of rugby excellence has enhanced the club competition. And it has lifted the performance of players who are inspired by the Wallabies coming back from Test duties to play in a grassroots competition.

A rising tide lifts all the boats in the harbour. The Randwick coach Mark Giacheri, in his first grade report on his side's narrow 23-21 victory over the minor premiers Eastwood last week at Woollahra Oval, made the point that two ''unlikely stars'', Seilala Lam and Junior Maninoa, sparked his side to their victory. Kurtley Beale, too, repeated his heroics at Bloemfontein by banging over another 50-metre penalty. And it was Rocky Elsom who set up the final, match-winning try with a pass to Maninoa.

Although Elsom and Drew Mitchell are named in the run-on side today, it seems both might have to pull out due to injuries. With Nick Cummins and Mark Chisholm definitely out, Randwick will rely on Patrick Phibbs, Sekope Kepu and Ben Mowen to counter the power and organisation of Sydney University.

The Students go into the today's final with a winning momentum and a side that has a Super Rugby-contracted player in every position. The side is a very different beast from the teams that were easily defeated by Randwick in the round matches. From the hooker, the impressive Nathan Charles, to Julian Huxley at fullback, Sydney University looks like a complete side. The back row of Ben McCalman, Jono Jenkins and Tim Davidson is as good a unit as any in Australian rugby. Luke Burgess has come back to some form at halfback. Berrick Barnes also ran brilliantly, passed shrewdly and kicked with deadly precision last week against Southern Districts.

The Shute Shield commemorates Robert Shute's joy in playing rugby, and not the unfortunate manner of his death. In this season of expansive rugby and under the best referee in Australia, Stu Dickinson, the final should be a terrific contest, with Sydney University favoured to win.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...ats-good-about-club-rugby-20101001-1612d.html

Great article from Spiro and a good message for all the negative people regarding Uni and Randwick.

 

[observer]

My fearless prediction: Uni will win this by 21 points.

 

[RugbyFuture]

:fishing Eastwood is better than all of them anyway...