U/15 SJRU, NSW, Schools
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Stan Wickham (3)
when does the sydney 15s side get announced?!
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Alfred Walker (16)
Posted By Hugh Jarse (in the other u/15 thread)
For all the Under 15 parents expressing surprise to how the selection system works, your boys must be the eldest, and this must be your first time "in the big leagues".
Some advice:
Do not expect any level playing fields.
Do not expect selections numbers to marry up with team success.
Very few Coaches do not have favourites and prejudices.
It will not get any better for the next few years.
If you expect otherwise you are in for a rough few years.
Colts is a great leveller, but the odd one or two get through Colts on reputation.
Cream will rise to the top eventually.
Not making the rep team is not the end of the world. It will not harm their chances of getting a good ATAR or picking up a trade apprenticeship. They may still pick up a Wobs contract at some distant future.
In the selectors favour, I must say that some boys are simply not as good as parents believe them to be, or want them to be. This is partially due to the rose coloured glasses worn by parents and relatives, and partially because many Coaches have been giving parents inaccurate feedback about the child as they have progressed feeding the false expectations and the rose coloured bias towards their boy.
For all the Under 15 parents expressing surprise to how the selection system works, your boys must be the eldest, and this must be your first time "in the big leagues".
Some advice:
Do not expect any level playing fields.
Do not expect selections numbers to marry up with team success.
Very few Coaches do not have favourites and prejudices.
It will not get any better for the next few years.
If you expect otherwise you are in for a rough few years.
Colts is a great leveller, but the odd one or two get through Colts on reputation.
Cream will rise to the top eventually.
Not making the rep team is not the end of the world. It will not harm their chances of getting a good ATAR or picking up a trade apprenticeship. They may still pick up a Wobs contract at some distant future.
In the selectors favour, I must say that some boys are simply not as good as parents believe them to be, or want them to be. This is partially due to the rose coloured glasses worn by parents and relatives, and partially because many Coaches have been giving parents inaccurate feedback about the child as they have progressed feeding the false expectations and the rose coloured bias towards their boy.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
And HJ let it never be overlooked that many more blokes play for Wallabies who did not play Oz schools than who did.
That is a massive indication of the truth of what you say, IMHO.
That is a massive indication of the truth of what you say, IMHO.
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Stan Wickham (3)
2013 SYDNEY 15s TEAM (in order of last names not position)
1. Bradley Amituanai MNZ
2. Mason Binge MNZ
3. Leo Bosch MNZ
4. Marcus Britt BAR
5. Cameron Fazzari BAR
6. Ed Gregory BAR
7. Jake Hedge BAR
8. Saimone Lasalo MWZ
9. Luke Lough MNZ
10. Jack Mann MWZ
11. Delohoya Manu MWZ
12. Samuel Mata MSZ
13. Jack Ongosia MNZ
14. Matt Orphen MWZ
15. Chase Paea MSZ
16. Luke Rixon BAR
17. Lachie Rose MNZ
18. Kariatiana Sau MSZ
19. Charlie Smith BAR
20. Angus Spicer MWZ
21. Tyrone TauKamo MSZ
22. Will Wennerbom BAR
23. Josh Zubak BAR
1. Bradley Amituanai MNZ
2. Mason Binge MNZ
3. Leo Bosch MNZ
4. Marcus Britt BAR
5. Cameron Fazzari BAR
6. Ed Gregory BAR
7. Jake Hedge BAR
8. Saimone Lasalo MWZ
9. Luke Lough MNZ
10. Jack Mann MWZ
11. Delohoya Manu MWZ
12. Samuel Mata MSZ
13. Jack Ongosia MNZ
14. Matt Orphen MWZ
15. Chase Paea MSZ
16. Luke Rixon BAR
17. Lachie Rose MNZ
18. Kariatiana Sau MSZ
19. Charlie Smith BAR
20. Angus Spicer MWZ
21. Tyrone TauKamo MSZ
22. Will Wennerbom BAR
23. Josh Zubak BAR
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
some surprises there in a number of positions
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Stan Wickham (3)
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Tyrone TauKamo also made the Under 15 Australian Rugby League Merit Team. I watched one of the Southern games yesterday as I was interested in seeing him play as there has been much disucssion about him in rugby league circles. Unfortunaltely the Southern team couldn't get the ball out the back in the game I saw. He is listed as going to Newington College - scholarship????
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Wrong thread to discuss scholarships. The Mods want to quarantine that talk to one specific area.
There is also a thread on selectors bias and favouritism if you want to have a decent vent.
Gaggerland thinks of everything.
There is also a thread on selectors bias and favouritism if you want to have a decent vent.
Gaggerland thinks of everything.
What position did he play?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
For those interested in Clubs rather than "Zones":
Norths = 9
Randwick = 3
Eastwood = 3
Gordon = 3
Warringah = 2
Penrith = 2
South = 1
Norths = 9
Randwick = 3
Eastwood = 3
Gordon = 3
Warringah = 2
Penrith = 2
South = 1
Wow, Norths must have really cleaned up in the state champs.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
It is not good for the competition to have so many rep kids in one District, worse if they are all in one club within that district.
In the U15's are the Sydney Rep boys all in Mosman Whales, or are they distributed throughout the Norths empire?
In the U15's are the Sydney Rep boys all in Mosman Whales, or are they distributed throughout the Norths empire?
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Surprised Chris Scott, Chris Terry, Matt Dainton, James Armstrong, Tom Serhon and Charlie Jeavons-Fellows didn't make it: but I didnt see the weekends games so that's on long term observation and not the way they played at the weekend.
Dont think I'll say who I am surprised is in there just at the moment.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Mainly Hunters Hill - there are only 2 teams in Norths in this age group
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Herbert Moran (7)
Of the 9 Norths (6 Hunters Hill) boys picked, only one was was picked by MNZ (selectors were the NSW coach and an ARU employee). The other 8 (including 5 backs) who made it came from the poorly performing Barbarians team at the Zone Championships. Gordon who have won 4 State Championships including this year's had 3 picked in the Sydney team.
The same selectors who picked the Barbarians team picked the Sydney team and the Norths coach was the Barbarians coach and he is on the SJRU committee and President of Hunters Hill.
The unlucky ones for me are Nick Brown, Chris Scott, Matt Dainton, Will Terry, James Armstrong and Jake Pirina from Gordon. James Basha and Charlie Jeavons-Fellows from Norths and Harrison Goddard from Eastwood.
I will also refrain from mentioning the lucky and the very lucky ones.
This is not particularly close to the best side. Imagine how many Norths players would get in if they made a State Championship final – or won one!
Sounds like sour grapes from a Gordon perspective? - it is!
The same selectors who picked the Barbarians team picked the Sydney team and the Norths coach was the Barbarians coach and he is on the SJRU committee and President of Hunters Hill.
The unlucky ones for me are Nick Brown, Chris Scott, Matt Dainton, Will Terry, James Armstrong and Jake Pirina from Gordon. James Basha and Charlie Jeavons-Fellows from Norths and Harrison Goddard from Eastwood.
I will also refrain from mentioning the lucky and the very lucky ones.
This is not particularly close to the best side. Imagine how many Norths players would get in if they made a State Championship final – or won one!
Sounds like sour grapes from a Gordon perspective? - it is!
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