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TYS player of the year: Oz v Eng
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Noddy said:
Smith. He did a huge amount of work in attack and defence and dropped the grubber
. I am looking forward to seeing the tackle, turnover and carry stats. I suspect that some observers may not have given him enough credit because they were highly impressed with the other forwards who really stepped up.That said, Robinson was enormous.
3. Baxter - Sheridan fucked
2. Robinson - Vickery fucked
1. Sharpe - work rate. His stats here http://www.thescore.com.au/rugby/thescore1751.html#results are insane
2. Robinson - Vickery fucked
1. Sharpe - work rate. His stats here http://www.thescore.com.au/rugby/thescore1751.html#results are insane
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Some reasons we won:
Sharpe 20 tackles, 7 runs (plus all the lineout work), 13 ruck/mauls, 15 metres gain
Smith 20 tackles, 6 runs, 7 ruck/mauls, 28 metres gain
Mortlock 19 tackles, 5 runs, etc etc
3M 18 tackles, etc
Sharpe 20 tackles, 7 runs (plus all the lineout work), 13 ruck/mauls, 15 metres gain
Smith 20 tackles, 6 runs, 7 ruck/mauls, 28 metres gain
Mortlock 19 tackles, 5 runs, etc etc
3M 18 tackles, etc
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I cant do a 3-2-1, since I thought the whole pack did well at scrum and lineout time, although it could have cleaned out a bit more vigorously at the breakdown.
Burgess did well in defence, although I'd want to check where Cipriani made those two runs through before I got too fulsome. Apart from that, not so good. No running game that I recall, and sometimes thats a good option.
Giteau kicked for goal well. Cross held onto the ball a bit too much, but was good. Mortlock was good.
I cant agree with the criticism of Hynes. His run and clever grubber set up the try, and apart from that he made two try-saving tackles.
Perhaps its time to try AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 as Mortlock plays 12 currently. I'm not sold on Mitchell defensively - or that he has ticker - but trying him at 15 is worthwhile.
Burgess did well in defence, although I'd want to check where Cipriani made those two runs through before I got too fulsome. Apart from that, not so good. No running game that I recall, and sometimes thats a good option.
Giteau kicked for goal well. Cross held onto the ball a bit too much, but was good. Mortlock was good.
I cant agree with the criticism of Hynes. His run and clever grubber set up the try, and apart from that he made two try-saving tackles.
Perhaps its time to try AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 as Mortlock plays 12 currently. I'm not sold on Mitchell defensively - or that he has ticker - but trying him at 15 is worthwhile.
formeropenside said:
I should qualify my critique of Hynes. I don't think he's bad by any means, and like his attitude and play in general. I was a bit worried a couple of times over the last few matches when his turn of speed was something less than expected, and he just kind of ran it straight up and into defence, occasionally getting isolated. Hence, a bit pedestrian in attack. He's not big enough to try bashing through - tactics like his grubber were very good and I'll admit I had overlooked that with my initial assessment. Defence is not an issue. I would like to see a couple of flyers get some time - Ioane, Mitchell, Turner (although it's no secret I'd prefer to see Mitchell at 15, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) 13 (not wing) and Cross on the bench). Hynes should stay in the mix by all means.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
3 Baxter
2 Sharpe, my one critique is that it was Sharpe that Cipriani went past both times - well, Sharpe and Chisholm, and Sharpe and someone else...apart from that, best game from Sharpe we've seen - along with that one test last year vs the Boks where he also played tight
1 MMM, huge work rate until 65m when he cramped and should've been subbed...still managed to do a lot but was obviously really struggling
Honorable mentions: Moore, Alexander, Smith. Although Smith didn't get a turnover, his workrate was huge and he was on the ball a lot and rather unfortunate in that regard. Palu was very busy off the bench. Mortlock was very busy, but his hands let him down, and a number 12 he ain't.
My concern is that we still struggled to hold on to the ball at times.
The irony is that we played like England used to - strong forward play, set peices, accumulate points. The stronger irony is that Mortlock kicked the equivalent penalty that he missed in the World Cup.
2 Sharpe, my one critique is that it was Sharpe that Cipriani went past both times - well, Sharpe and Chisholm, and Sharpe and someone else...apart from that, best game from Sharpe we've seen - along with that one test last year vs the Boks where he also played tight
1 MMM, huge work rate until 65m when he cramped and should've been subbed...still managed to do a lot but was obviously really struggling
Honorable mentions: Moore, Alexander, Smith. Although Smith didn't get a turnover, his workrate was huge and he was on the ball a lot and rather unfortunate in that regard. Palu was very busy off the bench. Mortlock was very busy, but his hands let him down, and a number 12 he ain't.
My concern is that we still struggled to hold on to the ball at times.
The irony is that we played like England used to - strong forward play, set peices, accumulate points. The stronger irony is that Mortlock kicked the equivalent penalty that he missed in the World Cup.
Grandmaster Flash
Johnnie Wallace (23)
3 Sharpe
2 MMM
1 Moore
2 MMM
1 Moore
Ash said:
It was fascinating with the radio feed from the ref at the ground ('Ref-link'). I'm not sure how much of it you got over that twat commentator on the Aussie feed (where was he from?)
At every other breakdown you could hear Smith shouting "Release, release!" as he stood over the ball. He had a chat with Jonkers during one of the pommy penalty attempts where he brought this up. Jonkers had a chuckle and said "sometimes you win them George and sometimes you lose". On another day Smith would have forced 4 or 5 penalty turnovers. The baying Twickenham crowd (who were already pissed off with the ref) would have exploded if Jonkers had. I wondered if that was partly behind his comment.....
Something else that was really clear through the ref link was where the problems in the scrum were. Very early on Moore brought to Jonkers attention that the poms were pulling back after engagement. The TJ Brycie Lawrence also spotted Vickery tugging Robinsons bind about the same time. Jonkers picked up on both of those and was warning the poms.
The clincher was the scrum in their 22 on our own ball which was steady and got a nudge on. After that it was clear who could keep a scrum up and who couldn't.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Was fairly obvious early on if you knew what you were looking for - funny how whenever England got near our half on their feed the scrum started going down. They wanted the penalties bad! I've seen a few Kiwi punters complaining that we were up to our old tricks. Clearly they knew fuck all about scrum play.
the gambler
Dave Cowper (27)
3. Baxter
2. Robinson
1. Gits
Gits gets a point for a very cool kicking display. His general play kicking was also very good with every most kicks finding the turf in behind Sackey. His covering tackle on Mears was also a clincher. So not a typical game for Gits but in my mind still worthy of a point.
Other mentions go to Mitchells kick chase which was excellent, Palu's work off the bench (the hit on Cips was a belter) and Sharpe for playing his 2nd best game as a Wallaby.
Apparently Baxter got the players vote for man of the match so that was enough for me.
2. Robinson
1. Gits
Gits gets a point for a very cool kicking display. His general play kicking was also very good with every most kicks finding the turf in behind Sackey. His covering tackle on Mears was also a clincher. So not a typical game for Gits but in my mind still worthy of a point.
Other mentions go to Mitchells kick chase which was excellent, Palu's work off the bench (the hit on Cips was a belter) and Sharpe for playing his 2nd best game as a Wallaby.
Apparently Baxter got the players vote for man of the match so that was enough for me.
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