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Bob Loudon (25)
No doubting the power of the torpedo. This went about 70m.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jme9aV6A-eA
To Forget Marseilles: The Critical Importance of Kicking
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No doubting the power of the torpedo. This went about 70m.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jme9aV6A-eA
Curiosity to me. They can only tackle on the torso, a tackle around the legs is illegal. They value the "hip and shoulder", often delivered blind as a shoulder-charge resulting in injury, yet a "safe" tackle around the legs is verboten. Very strange.
You can kick an AFL ball a lot further than a rugby ball but that was massive by Fletcher.
I went to a kicking clinic with Craig McRae from the Lions and he managed to get a torp going with a rugby ball by kicking the ball with it pointing straight ahead. Took him about 3 goes then was nailing them.
The torp is all about timing. Once you have practiced it enough it becomes second nature. Also look at the different styles. I found copying Latham's technique would give me about 10m extra distance, could get around 50m with it. A big issue is guy try and get too much spin on it and you loose distance and accuracy.
As for place kicking I think Wilkinson has some great tips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTurKx4fbEE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg71xnOERj4
I went to a kicking clinic with Craig McRae from the Lions and he managed to get a torp going with a rugby ball by kicking the ball with it pointing straight ahead. Took him about 3 goes then was nailing them.
The torp is all about timing. Once you have practiced it enough it becomes second nature. Also look at the different styles. I found copying Latham's technique would give me about 10m extra distance, could get around 50m with it. A big issue is guy try and get too much spin on it and you loose distance and accuracy.
As for place kicking I think Wilkinson has some great tips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTurKx4fbEE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg71xnOERj4
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Rev Spooner
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Our goal-kicking has been ordinary for years now but what worries me more is our general play kicking. How many games have we lost due to that?
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Tony Shaw (54)
Good point. I can't help believe kicking from hand in Aus S15 teams can't be improved - how often do we see wayward kicks that fly pin-point into the hands of the opposing FB or other agile back, only for possession to be merely handed over with zero gain and added major risk of a successful counter-attack from deep.
I think open field kicking standards, precision, distances (which can ally with precision to force the opposition to scramble and lose shape) in Aus rugby is way under the equivalent in top AFL levels (which might explain why the ABs shrewdly chose an ex-AFL player as a kicking and catching coach - see above/below). Carter (for example) is at top AFL standard, but few Australian players are IMO.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Very relevant comments from Braam Van Straaten re JO'C's kicking, his own coaching role with the Wallabies (largely via remote communication), and his desire to aid the Wallabies in the RWC (implying that such has not been confirmed yet):
http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/k...ker-in-the-world/story-e6frf4pu-1226069135170
http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/k...ker-in-the-world/story-e6frf4pu-1226069135170
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Bob Loudon (25)
Agree with this x1000. I have brought it up with followers of footy, but unfortunately they only follow the one code and so are unable to see the ludicrous nature of allowing a bump but no tackling below the knees. I also point to rugby as an example of how the advantage rule should be played, but again they would prefer to enjoy the bliss of ignorance.
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Bob Loudon (25)
You would not know by watching as the interpretation changes every game.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
As a guy who has little footballing talent but could always out kick and out throw my mate my best suggestion is to really stare as hard as you can at the ball, and once you think you have your maximum concentration level, stare even more! you cant focus enough on the ball. dont look up and just concentrate, try to see the little dimples on the ball and then kick as hard as you can, but keep your head down. Once you are doing this well start to try and change the trajectory of the ball. Are you getting 45 degrees of trajectory? Get someone to stand side on and take a photo or video of the angle you are kicking.
I tried to explain it once too, but they kept telling me a tackle below the knees was a trip! I gave up, muttering "...and don't get me started on knock-ons...".
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I'd rather JOC (James O'Connor). He's handled pressure very well on the inter stage for the past two years and has been near-flawless in terms of forced errors due to nerves or cost opportunities, especially compared to another 10/12 in our team who's error rate can't have the same words said for it :
JOC (James O'Connor) didnt do too badly HK last year, and with our flip of the coin shooters that are his rivals, surely the kicker choice is no problem. (Albeit if Giteau finds his boots again he'll go top. On his day he's the best kicker in the world, then again everybody is on their day)
I vote we just use the tri-nations to play about - And hope that we don't get raped at the same time and de-motivating the squad.
JOC (James O'Connor) didnt do too badly HK last year, and with our flip of the coin shooters that are his rivals, surely the kicker choice is no problem. (Albeit if Giteau finds his boots again he'll go top. On his day he's the best kicker in the world, then again everybody is on their day)
I vote we just use the tri-nations to play about - And hope that we don't get raped at the same time and de-motivating the squad.
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