Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
To'omua would be very handy for the RWC. Another good option at 12 and a better option at 10 than both Beale and Hodge. He has a good head on his shoulders(we hope) and could well challenge for a spot right now.
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To'omua would be very handy for the RWC. Another good option at 12 and a better option at 10 than both Beale and Hodge. He has a good head on his shoulders(we hope) and could well challenge for a spot right now.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
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David Wilson (68)
Big shout out to Beale. How long have we (many of us anyway) been calling him a defensive flake? I now have to say that there is no way I would want to be on the end of one of his hits.
Foley stepped up as well.
Now this begs another question. It is right and proper that we try to reduce the work in D by our 9-10-12 axis. This would be, I think, Hooper and Pocock. By design or by effective Irish spoiling those boys were in deep and tight.
Anyway, I hope Beale pulls up good. We need his defensive capacity.
Foley stepped up as well.
Now this begs another question. It is right and proper that we try to reduce the work in D by our 9-10-12 axis. This would be, I think, Hooper and Pocock. By design or by effective Irish spoiling those boys were in deep and tight.
Anyway, I hope Beale pulls up good. We need his defensive capacity.
Zero_Cool
Arch Winning (36)
Not criticising, but trying to understand it, what was going on with the Wallabies backline. A few odd things I noticed:
- Kerevi looked like he was playing on the wing.
- DHP and Koro were very often on the same wing.
- Folau was maybe in the centres?
- Foley looked like he had only one job -- pass to Beale.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Kerevi was defending on the left wing and got caught there in attack a few times on turn over ball.
Koro and DHP were both attacking on the same side off set piece.
Izzy was defending at fullback and clearly instructed to attack the wing and go for the cross field kicks in open play.
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Koro and DHP were both attacking on the same side off set piece.
Izzy was defending at fullback and clearly instructed to attack the wing and go for the cross field kicks in open play.
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Zero_Cool
Arch Winning (36)
Yeah, that confused me a heap of times! Maybe it confused the Irish too!
It just looked very odd, perhaps we could play guys in their positions, and have them defend in that position...
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Zero_Cool
Arch Winning (36)
I feel like this kind of complacency is a bit of an issue in Australian rugby when we win the fans think 'everything is awesome!' then when we lose it's 'we fucking suck'. While we did play well last night, there are a few glaring issues that will only fester if left untreated. I think the backline structure was one (although it might be a stroke of brilliance time will tell), and obviously the lineout was very poor. While some throws were poor, I'm not sure the throws are the core of the issue with our line-out. Worst part is there isn't really any way to fix it. We could hope Timu becomes a better jumper, or that Tui will meet his potential as a 6.
Rodda and Coleman weren't bad but clearly lacked a little synergy. I don't even know if Simmons at 6 would plug the hole.
Getwithme
Cyril Towers (30)
I felt the throwing was definitely the core issue and it is really the core to a good lineout
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I mean, our defense was nearly the best ive ever seen it. Even in the glory years it was seldom that miserly.
Also, the throws were the entirety of the issue. Two overthrows and one well read one to the front by the Irish. BPA will sharpen it up with more time in the team.
I think in attack is where we need to work on our structure and tactics. I thought we left a few points out there to be honest. Kerevi also got a a lot of useless ball, one even leading to a turn-over. No fault of his.
Zero_Cool
Arch Winning (36)
I think you miss the point I was trying to express, although I probably expressed it poorly. I was more saying, even if our throwing is/was perfect our line-out is still going to be a roll of a dice at least against Ireland not sure about some of the other teams.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Interesting article from the NZ Herald talking up our performance:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12067976
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12067976
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
My explanation for the structure was that we were looking to exploit the Irish tactic of their outside centre jamming in on a ball carrier to stop the ball from going out wide. So in a sort of rough order:
1. Folau shifts into first receiver for right to left passes (where his passing is better) and this pushes our better passes, Beale and Foley, out one so they can make a quick transfer of the ball under pressure to the player directly outside the 13 channel. Additionally, Folau at first receiver keeps the inside defenders interested and stops them from drifting across in cover in the case that the player jamming misses the tackle and they need to scramble across in defence.
2. Koroibete receives the ball in place of Kerevi who is on the wing, if the Irish defender jams in then there will be a hole to go through, you want your fastest guy to exploit this hole.
3. This arrangement was largely off lineout ball around halfway on the right hand side of the field, rather than having the blind winger standing inside the first receiver as a ball carrying option he shifted out wide. We normally had short line outs around halfway so we had a forward pod inside the first receiver as the inside option so no need for the blind winger to be there.
4. DHP stood inside Kerevi (pushing Kerevi to the wing) because often the Irish winger will follow the outside centre who jams in to try and stop the offload either by assisting in the tackle or potentially intercepting the pass. This means that any cover defence is going to be from the inside as the winger has veered from his man, often in this is the scenario you want a big bollocking winger of the Taqele or Lomu type who are harder to bundle into touch and may be able to bounce out of tackles close to the line. Also DHP is a better decision maker than Kerevi so you want him choosing to run, dummy or pass if he has a man outside him to utilise.
Certainly unusual but it definitely worked (or a very similar variation worked) the time we scored and the time Koroibete was dragged into touch just before the line, which were our two main attacking raids in the first half. I'm sure Cheika and Larkham will review it and mix it up.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Quite noticeable with League converts that because they've always had to worry about tackle counts they don't always think about the long game and try to do too much in one phase. Definitely a time when he could have passed to DHP or at least cut back in field and we would have scored in the phases after.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
That’s a bit harsh. With one he pinned his ears back and went for the corner trying to bump off the defender who made an amazing tackle. The other he cut in field. The Irish defence was very good.
Zero_Cool
Arch Winning (36)
Don't disagree, but a winger with Koro's skill set has to finish at least one of those two. As I sad he did face very good Irish defence, but he really should have finished one of them.