The Tahs

[Biffo]

The Tahs remain woeful. On this forum and elsewhere, there are many anguished cries for the coach to be sacked and for indididual players to be sacked or moved. Isn't there a ring of familiarity to this?

The Tahs have been woeful for most of the last 19 years, if I can count correctly. It hasn't mattered who has played or where the players have been deployed or in what combinations. It hasn't mattered who has been captain. It hasn't mattered who has been the coach. It hasn't mattered who has been bought and sold.

The solution to the appalling performances by the Tahs surely lies beyond player and coach shuffles and reshuffles.

Perhaps a serious supporter strike might be a useful step to initiate reform?

 

[Langthorne]

Maybe we should all move to Adelaide, it is clearly being in Sydney that is the problem.

 

[cyclopath]

The Tahs remain woeful. On this forum and elsewhere, there are many anguished cries for the coach to be sacked and for indididual players to be sacked or moved. Isn't there a ring of familiarity to this?

The Tahs have been woeful for most of the last 19 years, if I can count correctly. It hasn't mattered who has played or where the players have been deployed or in what combinations. It hasn't mattered who has been captain. It hasn't mattered who has been the coach. It hasn't mattered who has been bought and sold.

The solution to the appalling performances by the Tahs surely lies beyond player and coach shuffles and reshuffles.

Perhaps a serious supporter strike might be a useful step to initiate reform?

Wind up the franchise?
I was dead serious on another thread - they will barely get 15000 next week, and another crap performance will see that fall further. I think, one way or another, they will get a supporter strike. Maybe the entire NSWRU should be axed and they start from scratch.

 

[rsea]

I made the point in another thread how the switch to Hickey was meant to spell the end to crap Rugby for the Tahs. Obviously it hasn't so either Hickeys using Ewens old play notes or its something else stopping them from playing

 

[fatprop]

:nta:Woeful for 19 years? They have been the most successful Aus S14 side for quite some time, what does that make the rest of them?

 

[louie]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

 

[Biffo]

:nta:Woeful for 19 years? They have been the most successful Aus S14 side for quite some time, what does that make the rest of them?

MOST OF the last 19 years.

 

[waratahjesus]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

 

[DPK]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

Things may pick up with the new format next year.

And i agree with louie. I regard the Brumbies as the most successful Australian Super rugby team.

 

[Ash]

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

Anyone have a cluepon?

Just for WJ:
http://www.qgl.org/cluepon/

 

[fatprop]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

Things may pick up with the new format next year.

And i agree with louie. I regard the Brumbies as the most successful Australian Super rugby team.

I also think the Brumbies are the most successful Aus side historically, because they actually won the two Super 12 comps.

But their success finished in 2004 and since then they have been average; and the Tahs have been to most successful Aus franchise since.

Despite the Tahs playing crap dire rugby at times and frustrating the hell out of their supporters.

 

[louie]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

I never said crap i just said not successful. When you fans are booing you that makes you unsuccessful.
the brumbies get about 15k+ to there games.

 

[TOCC]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

actually technically no Australian Super14 team has drawn 15'000 or less fans yet, the closest was the Reds but that was at soaking wet ballymore so even then comparisons are stretched.

 

[waratahjesus]

making two finals doesn't make you succuessful, winning them does. they have power to do it and should be able too.

they have still been successful, losing tot he crusaders during there golden run doesnt make you crap.
and getting I5000 fans will still put them as the most supported aussie side in the comp.
im gong to throw this out there, the comp is the problem.

I never said crap i just said not successful. When you fans are booing you that makes you unsuccessful.
the brumbies get about 15k+ to there games.

sorry louie wasnt trying to put words in your mouth, was saying losing to a team that is so successful doesnt make you not successful. the last ten years the tahs have turned around the organisation and things are going better everywhere but the field, but even there, there in contention and every chance to make the finals again,
thing is, i was at the game, sitting up the end with the fans and i was on the field after the match for half an hour and well, during the large round of applause and cheers that met the finish of the game and the swarm of youngsters and family onto the ground and swamped the players i dont actually remember this corus of booing that everyone is gong on about.

i didnt enjoy the match, i thought the first half had its moments but the second half was pretty much a tired team hanging on by a thread. but although at times people booed a choice to kick or whatever, this to me is just complete crap. do we honestly believe any team in the comp can do whatever they want and score a thousand trys just by hanging onto the ball, the sharks were playing to and defending alright, running the ball doesnt actually equal success automatically

 

[Ash]

I don't get what you are trying to say WJ. You say there was no booing then admit you could hear it. On TV it was obvious (the crowd booing the Tahs kcking) and even Kearns said they should. It wasn't just a tired team hanging on it was a clueless team putting in woeful aimless kicks.

And if the team was so tired why he the hell didn't Hickey use the bench? (as has alreay been said before)

 

[RugbyFuture]

greater supporter communication is the key, supporters striking would only mean that the NSWRU and waratahs rugby businesses would have to start to compromise. something must change but not sticking by in the crap times, for both the team and the supporters is just wrong.

 

[Ruggo]

This entire thread is making Australian Rugby look bad. NRL has not even started in Sydney yet and the Tahs can only pull 20,000, in the biggest city in the country might I add. With that said, fuck all people want to go and see them and the code is doing fuck all at expanding the game we all love. Success is just not a word that can be associated with rugby in Australia. In the past the Wallabies have punched above their weight on the field but administration and development have always been a shame. 15 years into proffessionalism and it amaizes me the amount of the general public that still view Union as the code for tops with silver spoons up their arses. What is successful about that?

 

[waratahjesus]

I don't get what you are trying to say WJ. You say there was no booing then admit you could hear it. On TV it was obvious (the crowd booing the Tahs kcking) and even Kearns said they should. It wasn't just a tired team hanging on it was a clueless team putting in woeful aimless kicks.

And if the team was so tired why he the hell didn't Hickey use the bench? (as has alreay been said before)

well if kearns said they should, thread over. you do realise that the director of the rugby coverage on fox sports gets them to point a boom in the direction of any fan or player doing something interesting, so a minority can become a majority very quickly.

there wasnt any great booing is what im saying, people boo teams going for penalty kicks in the first five minutes of a match these days have for a few years, its just stupid behaviour that people seem to think will make rugby all of a sudden a non stop entertainment fest, it never has been.

was i entertained last night, yes, by the game, not so much.

but im not going to bitch about it all day when you look across the board at what other teams did and are doing.
the fact that even with I3 men on the field the sharks line held quite well, maybe the tahs attack wasnt working so when they reverted to kicking it may have been part of the game plan, surely playing for territory if you cant brake down a line has to be better than throwing the ball around and turning it over in your own 50, but then again, that would mean the team was playing to win and not for a logie award and that would make them boring and stupid right?

 

[waratahjesus]

This entire thread is making Australian Rugby look bad. NRL has not even started in Sydney yet and the Tahs can only pull 20,000, in the biggest city in the country might I add. With that said, fuck all people want to go and see them and the code is doing fuck all at expanding the game we all love. Success is just not a word that can be associated with rugby in Australia. In the past the Wallabies have punched above their weight on the field but administration and development have always been a shame. 15 years into proffessionalism and it amaizes me the amount of the general public that still view Union as the code for tops with silver spoons up their arses. What is successful about that?

20000 against the sharks is a good crowd, against a bigger kiwi team or australian team it would be bad but south african teams have never drawn a crowd in sydney.

the nrl brag all it wants but the 20000 crowds they pull are always against local rivals in sydney, out of town teams are lucky to get half that when they come here.

 

[Pfitzy]

On that display though wj what can we expect even with the Kiwi teams in town?

There is way too much politics that smaller organisations (e.g. the Brumbies) don't have to deal with. The time has come for the Waratahs Super rugby franchise to be detatched from NSWRU and run as a separate entity.

From a purely personal point of view, a crowd of under 20K is great if you want to get a beer in decent time, but I can drink beer at home or go to the pub and watch them play like shit for free.