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The June Window

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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This has just been announced. I think some of the other provinces have plans. Can we put them here?

: St.George Queensland Reds announce June exhibition match on Sunshine Coast against New Zealand’s Hurricanes

Reigning Super Rugby champions the St.George Queensland Reds are taking elite-level Rugby to the Sunshine Coast following the announcement of a midseason exhibition game against New Zealand’s Hurricanes at Stockland Stadium on Friday June 15.

The match will be held during the upcoming month-long break to the FxPro Super Rugby season to ensure the Reds maintain cohesion and form before they continue their charge to the finals and top of the Australian Conference.

The trans-Tasman encounter is being run by Queensland Rugby in conjunction with the Sunshine Coast Rugby Union to offer the local Rugby community the opportunity to see the resurgent Reds in action at the newly developed “Stockland Stadium Sunshine Coast”.

Tickets for the exhibition match will go on sale and be available for purchase in the coming weeks, with Sunshine Coast Rugby Union members and Queensland Reds members to be extended a pre-sale period.

Queensland Rugby’s General Manager of Game Development David Hanham said the decision to bring the match to the Sunshine Coast was recognition of the Union’s hard work to make rugby strong in the region, where the Reds also enjoy great support.

“The game was faced with some significant challenges two years ago and the Sunshine Coast has done a marvellous job of re-establishing itself,” Mr Hanham said.

“The opportunity to host this exhibition match is a vindication of the professionalism Sunshine Coast bring to the game and the confidence we have in their commitment to the ongoing success of the code.

“The Sunshine Coast is an important growth corridor for Rugby in Queensland and is also an area where the St.George Queensland Reds enjoy a large fan base.

“Queensland Rugby – and their host Unions – have experienced great success in the past from taking the game to the community. Queensland Rugby is committed to this approach, which is designed to assist in growing the game.”

Sunshine Coast Rugby Union Chairman Glenn Ferguson said his Union was proud to host an exhibition match of this calibre.

“We’re grateful that Queensland Rugby has decided to bring this match to a growing Rugby Union region in their own backyard,” Mr Ferguson said.

“Being able to present the Queensland Reds and the Wellington Hurricanes to the Sunshine Coast is a tremendous boost to our community and we have no doubt the Sunshine Coast will embrace the match.”

Reds coach Ewen McKenzie said the match played during the competition’s month-long break would be crucial to the team’s preparations heading into the business end of the Super Rugby season.

“The midseason break is a new experience for everyone but we are confident the match on the Sunshine Coast against the Hurricanes will offer us a strong platform to accomplishing our goal – that being making the Super Rugby finals,” McKenzie said.

“A month off is a long time in Rugby so it’s important we don’t lose too much in terms of momentum or performance during this period. That’s why we chose the match on the Sunshine Coast as it’s critical we build on the form we are showing leading up to the break.

“I’ve also been to Stockland Stadium before and after it was redeveloped and it’s a great venue. The Sunshine Coast is a great place to bring the match to and we will be aiming to field our strongest possible line-up available to us at the time.”

Reds lock Rob Simmons said the Hurricanes would be a formidable opponent.

“Like us, the Hurricanes are on the edge of a finals spot currently, and will be looking to this match as a way to kick-start their end of season campaign,” Simmons said.

“It’s going to be a fierce battle and I’m sure the guys will be looking to extract some revenge on the Hurricanes after they were one of only three teams we lost to during 2011.

“We have a lot of supporters on the Sunshine Coast and I’d encourage them all to buy a ticket and get to the game for what should be an entertaining night of Rugby.”

The Hurricanes recorded a 28-26 victory over the Reds last season after then flyhalf Aaron Cruden kicked a last minute penalty goal to inspire his side to victory.

The Hurricanes were excluded from the Reds FxPro Super Rugby schedule for 2012 and they continue to be well in finals contention only a fortnight out from the competition’s midseason break.

In 2012 the Reds take a break from Super Rugby between May 26 and June 29 to allow for the Wallabies to take on Scotland and a three-game series against Wales.

Following the Test window, the Reds will face three crucial matches against the Rebels, Highlanders and Waratahs as they continue their bid to catch up to current Australian Conference leaders, the Brumbies, any qualify for the finals.

The Reds have received significant results from taking the game to the community in the past and as recently as this year played one of their two preseason trials in Cairns.

The match at Barlow Park was a resounding success and laid a strong platform for the Reds start to their 2012 campaign, where they won three games from their opening three matches.
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Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Tuesday 12 June: Brumbies v Wales (Canberra Stadium, Canberra)

A good opportunity to test out some different combinations in the wake of lilo's injury...
 

kronic

John Solomon (38)
According to my sources the Scotland game against the Waratahs was going ahead.

No news re Rebels.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
The last time the Brumbies played Wales (back in '96) we trashed them 69 - 30...

Somehow I doubt Wales will be as much of a pushover this time...
 
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daz

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I seem to recall an interview or three last year with some of the NH coaches/admin/commentators who were uber-critical of the NH club season being split with international games, and saying that the SH clubs would be laughing their arses off and it would never be allowed to happen in the south.

Take that, NH!
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I love the fact that Deans is apparently selecting his team for Scotland 3 days before the match...

Brilliant...

I'm fine with the test window, and the midweek games it's going to bring...

But the Scotland test is a complete debacle...

On a Tuesday night in Newcastle a couple of days after Super Rugby, and a few days before another test?

Stupidity runs rampant...
 
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andyq

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I love the fact that Deans is apparently selecting his team for Scotland 3 days before the match...

Brilliant...

I'm fine with the test window, and the midweek games it's going to bring...

But the Scotland test is a complete debacle...

On a Tuesday night in Newcastle a couple of days after Super Rugby, and a few days before another test?

Stupidity runs rampant...

More than just a little disrespectful of the Scots as well... it might not have been down here, and they're not exactly travelling well, but it's not that long ago that they beat us.. and the 'Boks too
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
Slim. Totally agree.

My only hope is that this crazy early June program does not cause injuries to any of our key S15 team members in with a credible shot of making the S15 finals.

I'd argue strongly that one or two Aus teams making or one winning the S15 finals will be as or potentially more important for Aus rugby than beating Scotland or Wales in June.

For example, if the Brumbies won the S15 - perfectly possible in my view based upon recent form - the boost to ACT and Australian rugby would be huge, just as was the Reds' win in 2011. Aus rugby badly needs two teams or more at or near the top of the S15 in order to build both local economic strength, and local fan base depth, both on an enduring basis.
 
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andyq

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For example, if the Brumbies won the S15 - perfectly possible in my view based upon recent form .

even better if the Reds beat the horsies in the final ;)

Not sure if this is even logistically possible at this stage however
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
I would just prefer it if the northern hemisphere (european) leagues all played from march - october with the international window as is (which i think is fine)
the seaons would completely line up - canada, japan and usa (growth markets for the game) already have their key domestic season lined up with super 15 and the interanational window. more attractive rugby across the board.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Although I understand the reasoning behind the game, and generally am of the opinion that too much international rugby is never enough, this was always going to be a shemozzle.

It should have been an Australian Barbarian XV playing the Scots, which gives two benefits:

1. You aren't seen to be handing out 'cheap' caps to Super players simply because they are the only ones available.
2. The Baa baas concept allows players to be picked from lef field, junior and club ranks. eg. guys like Peter Hewat, CFS etc.

The Scots still get a high quality opposition, and the game is still good to watch (better when you consider the baa baas style). The only downside is it would attract a much smaller crowd.

But it ain't going to happen, so I have just wasted my time explaining the concept. Ah well, better than doing work I suppose.
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RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
There's a train wreck coming right down the green and gold tracks.

The ARU is trying to drive up $ income by playing more Tests per annum. But, to save costs, with a much smaller squad of nationally contracted Wallaby players, from the 40s to 32. And, as a background but also cost-driven factor, S15 squad sizes have been reduced to 30 which may risk the numerical span of active S15 players that are developed to Wallaby-readiness. Plus the total number of SupeRugby games has been recently expanded.

All the Aus and NZ S15 teams - Reds, Tahs, Cru - that had a big 'feeder' role of S15 finals and/or RWC players etc have fared less well in 2012 than in 2011. That might be co-incidence, but then it might not be. Playing a lot of physically and mentally demanding top games wears players out - intelligent rotation and larger squads are essential if more elite rugby is to be played each year, as it will be with a 4N and, for the Wallabies, a BIL tour coming very soon then coupled with a 2013 4N and EOYT and S15.

With smaller S15 and Wallaby squads and yet more Tests per year, we'll see higher burnout, more injuries per Test and/or per player, and thus almost certainly poorer Wallaby w-l results over time. Thus Wallaby income vicious circles will arise as fans lose motivation that the Wallabies will ever return to attain major success again, etc.

The latest, smaller Wallaby and S15 squad models of cost management are likely be a business school's dream case study of 'the theory of false economy'.
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
How many games & against what opposition are the Kiwis & Saffas up against during this period?
 
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