The best XV of players from any school

[Johnno2500]

The King's School, North Parramatta:

Easy add Ben Hindmarsh, former Australian schoolboys and Tahs props of 90s and early 2000's done.

 

[Johnno2500]

Some alternative selections and position changes are in bold.

** Based on playing for the Tahs there in trials. Not the worst I ever saw.

*** The difference of open and blindside flanker was not so relevant in Fenwicke's day. The tackled ball law had just been changed and the convention that attacking players could have their hands in just after a ruck had formed had not yet been established by referees. Then they enforced no hands-in even for attacking scrummies. Instead dominant forwards pushed lose scrummages with the ball on the ground up the park until they heeled it back.

**** Couldn't find one. Hopefully Guy Millar, the Oz Schools THP in 2010, could find his name there on some future list

Ben Hndmarsh former Aussie schoolboy and Tah's prop would be added to TKS front row

 

[Johnno2500]

Shit, from past experience on Sportal where there were any number of CAS posters espousing the virtues of primarily Waverley and Barker , I am surprised that no one has taken up my challenge.

Waverley Wobs: (There are apparently 18 of them)

Morgan Turinui
Owen_Finegan
Cyril Towers
Steve Finnane
Adam Freier
Ryan Cross

Bob Dwyer (coach)

Steve Hoiles, Luke Ricketson, Tim Mcgann, Shaun Mckay, Christian Warner

 

[Dismal Pillock]

had a burl at Kelston Boys, bit of shoehorning going on...

1. Kees Meeuws
2. Sione Lauaki haha, sorry, get in there ya giant drongo
3 Steven Bates oops, way too many loosies
4. Sione Vatuvei
5 Mose Tuiali'i
6. Apollo Perelini
7. DJ Forbes
8. Willie Lose
9. Kevin Senio
10. Loki Crichton
11. Inga Tuigamala
12. Sam Tuitupou
13 Anthony Tuitavake
14 Lolagi Visinia
15. Mils Muliaina

do I recall right that they had Bates, Lauaki, Sam Tuitupou and Mils in the same side at one stage? bugger that on a frozen Saturday morning, just call in sick, sorry coach, my mum died, yes again

 

[Teh Other Dave]

...let's thump our chests as we spruik our team for a notional contest. As much as I hate big quotes it's worthwhile looking at the Joeys team again.

I dunno, the BSHS, Terrace, Nudgee, and Ashgrove teams would all be very hard to beat. Bear in mind also that these guys were a year younger than their NSW counterparts in year 12.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Auckland Grammar:

Wilson Whinneray, John Buccan, John Drake, Peter Whiting, Gary Whetton, Alan Whetton, Kel Tremain, Lawrie Knight, Bruce Gemmell, Grant Fox, Graeme Thorne, Ben Atiga, Benson Stanley, Doug Howlett, Mathew Ridge.

All Blacks all, tho not all played Tests. AGS now has 48 AB's on their honours board, the most of any NZ Secondary School. Second is Christchurch BHS with 42 then Wellington College with 33.

 

[Teh Other Dave]

That's mediocre, WO, do better please.

 

[wamberal]

St. Joseph's College
(Hunters Hill)

Years listed are those they played for the Wallabies.

15. Terry Curley (1957-59)

Notes
15. Curley's career was shortened because of the commencement of his priesthood. I saw him play, and with a different calling he would have been a Wallaby great IMO.
)

Terry Curley was a great Wallaby, notwithstanding his highly abbreviated career. He is credited with playing a huge role in an away win against the ABs at the age of 19, back in the days when fullbacks really earned their keep. I saw him play a social match at Millner, he must have been 40. He kicked a very neat field goal from about 40 metres out and about 10 in from touch.

BTW Prosser was a tosser.

I am an old Fortian, and for some years our first XV played a trial against SJC, I think the last one was in 1954 or so. A colleague I worked with who was a few years older than me played in one of the trials. He said it was a bit strange to play against "boys" who shaved and had hairy arses!

I doubt anybody could pick a Fort Street XV. We would struggle to name a full XV who played first grade post-war, I would guess. Names that I can think of:

Dave Barsley Western Suburbs (RL)
Ian Moutray Drummoyne
Barry Miller Drummoyne
Bob Chambers Drummoyne
Gary Leo Balmain (RL)
Warwick Allen Eastwood
Dennis Keyes Gordon

There must have been more, but I cannot name them. Oh, maybe our most famous living rugger playing old boy - John Singleton, the self-described slowest winger who played 4ths for Briars.

 

[zer0]

Onehunga High School:

5. Taleni Seu

9. Kahn Fotuali'i
10. Isa Nacewa

Yeah. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, (Auckland) Glamour.

 

[Lee Grant]

Terry Curley was a great Wallaby, notwithstanding his highly abbreviated career. He is credited with playing a huge role in an away win against the ABs at the age of 19, back in the days when full backs really earned their keep.

I'm pushing 80 now and believe it or not - I was at that game at Lancaster Park in 1958. It was a couple of years before my family returned to Australia after my dad, a Kiwi, was transferred to NZ from Aus a few years earlier. To be honest I knew nothing about the Aussie team and everything about the All Blacks - and was disappointed that Don Clarke, the great fullback, was not playing because he had been injured.

I can't remember who the NZ players were except the AB hooker Dennis Young who used to coach our 1st XV a few times, and Meads, but I remember Aussie Alan Morton scoring that try for the Wallabies and Terry Curley who sent these booming punts down the field in the age when you could kick into touch directly from anywhere on the field and still gain ground. Nobody had ever heard of him and to their credit the crowd applauded every kick; it was an art.

The Kiwis were good sports and they got onto the field after the test match, and although their team had lost in a low-scoring game they applauded the Aussies who were at the top level of the old cricket pavilion by that time waving to the crowd. There was a live commentary on radio, and they interviewed some of the Aussies, I think for some of the team to say G'day to folks back home (and it was on the loud-speaker too) - and one Wallaby said he was happy because "We beat the bastards". Well, in those days in NZ, that wasn't said in public to a crowd and after a shocked pause, and people looking at each other in mock horror, the Kiwis had a good laugh.

That was a great day for Aussie rugby though I didn't appreciate it at the time.

 

[Lee Grant]

I've just googled "We beat the bastards" and got this: http://www2.rugby.com.au/wallabies/TheTeam/HistoricalWallabiesPlayerProfile.aspx?pid=939

So it was hooker Ron Meadows who made the quote (and the final score was 6-3 - at the time when a try was worth only 3 points). But the writer is wrong in one regard: he wrote "On leaving the field Ron was collared by a radio interviewer." He wasn't - he said it to the crowd on the top "floor" of the old cricket pavilion. I was in the crowd watching, and listening to, the full quote which the article says was: "We beat the bastards - you little beauty."
.

 

[kiap]

Reminiscent of the quote from Enzed's own Sir Ed from a few years before as "We knocked the bastard off".

 

[GTPIH]

Nudgee College

16. Anthony D'Arcy ('75) - Wallabies (10 Caps)

Years in brackets may be incorrect as sources differed, I just assumed all finished school aged 17. Nevertheless, this side would be almost unbeatable IMO. Current player caps may also vary.

Tony D'Arcy was a member of the famous 1977/78 Schoolboys team, so '75 probably incorrect

 

[GTPIH]

I went to uni with Williams. Martin Pitt, the manager of the 1981 Schoolboys that included Williams, was the Sports master at Cranbrook at the time. Williams was 'recruited' but he was going to repeat year 12 in any case as he didn't achieve the HSC mark he needed the first time around. He got the necessary mark at Cranbrook.

This was in the era when people did repeat for purely academic reasons.

From memory Cranbrook did win but their Centenary is actually in 2018

 

[wamberal]

Great post, Lee, and good to hear that there is somebody older than me!


I am 74. My earliest memories of international rugby was when our neighbour, who was also an old Fortian but loved league, took me to the SCG to watch NSW play the first Fijian touring side. Joe Levula! Dick Tooth tackled him head on, never seen a better head on tackle to this day!

 

[wamberal]

Barker College Hornsby

I thought Mitchell Pearce went to Barker? I know he plays the wrong game, but I had to include some leaguies.

 

[Primecut]

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[Antony]

had a burl at Kelston Boys, bit of shoehorning going on.

They'd have a useful principal/coach, too, in Sir Graham.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

I'm pushing 80 now

80 years old, woah, I've had Byron perform some simple Pitcairns arithmetic here in the sand and after 3 hours he's come to the conclusion that with me being 14-years old, you are almost old enough to be my father.

Well, one of them anyway.

 

[sidelineview]

How's this SDW?

Waverley Aussie Schoolboys

2016 – Tyzac Jordan (Babarians) - Scrum half
2013 – Nick Koutsoukis (Babarians) - Hooker
2012 – Jack Johnson (Babarians) - Flanker
2010 – Jed Holloway - Lock
2004 – Shaun Foley (Schools) Fullback; Sam Rutherford (Babarians) - 2nd Row
2003 – Dylan Sigg (Schools) - 2nd Row; Shaun Foley - Fullback & Alex Hanaford (Babarians) - ?
2002 – Martin Darby - Scrum half
2000 – Morgan Turinui - Centre
1999 – Morgan Sigg - Lock; Tim McGann - Flanker & Morgan Turinui - Centre
1997 – Ryan Cross - Centre & Adam Freier - Hooker
1996 – Ryan Cross - Centre
1990 – Troy Jaques - Lock & Michael Misson - ? Wing ?
1988 – Michael Towns - Wing
1987 – Jason Weber - 2nd Row
1985 – Phillip Shaw - Scrum half
1984 – Glen Taylor - Centre
1983 – Peter Cinelli - Fly half, David Hagan - ?, Franco Lagudi - Hooker & Iido Tomasiello - ?
!981 – Brad Burke - Scrum half; Matthew Burke - Centre & Tim Kava - 2nd Row
1980 – Paul Bowman - ?
1979 - Andrew Ugarte - Prop
1974 - Thomas Walsh - ?
1969 - Steve Finnane - Prop