Tactics on the edge of, or past the law - discussion and analysis

[Gagger]

This is the thread I talked about here

It's a place to discuss examples of where teams are bending and breaking the laws. Use evidence as much as possible to back up your points. This is not a slanging or whinging thread.

 

[dobduff11]

The whole thing,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nj-Xlh75Q

No just kidding


I dislike it when a 9 breaks through the middle of a lineout there is always some sort of holding/blocking on those set plays

 

[Tordah]

I hate it when teams do an up and under and their jumper then just goes in without any real intent to catch the ball but just to distract the opposition jumper (sometimes they're not even watching the ball but still the ref is fooled). I think I've seen Aplon do that tons of times. That's it.

 

[Rothschild]

Your honor, the tactic is Richie McCaw, the evidence presented will be Richie McCaw.

 

[fatprop]

Tactics on the edge of, or past the law

Shouldn't this thread be called "how to play rugby, the advanced primer"

 

[Searsy]

Chasers offside from a box kick.

 

[Jnor]

Inconsistent refereeing

 

[fatprop]

Subtlety blocking defenders

 

[matty_k]

Subtlety blocking defenders

You have to make sure you arms are up in the air when you do this. For some reason it helps make you look less inconspicuous.

 

[Scarfman]

1. Diving over the ball and sealing off (New Zealand)

2. Standing 2 metres offside at the ruck, pushing around opposition players, right in front of the ref. (New Zealand)

3. Scrum resets / deliberately taking the scrum down if you don't like the hit (Australia)

3. Eye-gouging, biting, nuts work, spitting (South Africa, France, Italy)

4. Pretending you are injured. (Chris Latham)

 

[Blue]

Ball not in straight in scrums.

Decoy runners early in the move, deflecting the defense that by the time the ball carrier reaches the AV line it looks okay.

Looseheads who scrum with one hand on the ground.

 

[Searsy]

4. Pretending you are injured. (Chris Latham)

He was injured - he had sensitive shins. That's why he could never wear his socks up.

 

[Gagger]

All good starts. Great energy.

"nuts work". like it

Some evidence / examples would be better though. (video, pictures, testimonials)

Also, what is en vogue this year vs last?

 

[dobduff11]

4. Pretending you are injured. (Berrick Barnes)

 

[Ruggo]

Subtlety blocking defenders

In which form? Around the ruck like NZ this year or last years great outrage of shielding the ball taker of a up and under which SA did last year. The point I make is that the form team is the form team as it finds the cutting edge on these matters. Maybe we might catch up in this department.

 

[dobduff11]

My personal tribute to Bakkies Botha:
Headbutting, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO12nItzYdw

Flying Headbuts, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0_L9EjdCk

Dangerous Clearouts, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz_EQ1wMV_M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CM-_JlG64&feature=related

Elbowing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2CimTyxgro

Cheap shots, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBKpcM9l7M

Gagger you asked for videos haha

 

[matty_k]

4. Pretending you are injured.

I thought this was done on a rotation basis. At most penalties near the try line there is always someone that takes that little bit longer to get up.

 

[Gagger]

Nice. try embedding

OK, here's an example of what I was thinking about - how do the different 3N countries "cheat" at the breakdown? Are there different styles? Demonstrate with video evidence and or testimonials. How has it changed with new rulings etc?

 

[Searsy]

[video=youtube;DLk_LCzWFuU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLk_LCzWFuU[/video]

This has it all - nut work, head stomp & king hit. Tasty.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

That Mendez sending off is quality. These days, he and Probyn would have been red carded. Feel a bit sorry for poor old Paul Ackford there. Probyn was a nasty player at times though.