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Sydney Subbies 2025

Here To Do

Ward Prentice (10)
Div 2 ends with a fairly even premiership spread - 2 UNSW, 1 Petersham, 1 St Pat's and 1 Forest. Always difficult to win multiple premierships in a Division as your depth gets well and truly tested so well done UNSW.

Petersham would be ruing the soft red card - was 12-0 at that in their favour which was followed by 3 Uni tries.

Briars with a strong year would be disappointed they left with no silverware. Forest turn a 6-8 regular season into a Premiership in 4s to make sure they didn't leave empty handed.

Second year in a row St Pat's Colts not troubled on GF day with a 28-7 win over UNSW. Pats colts over the past few years in the conversation for top performers but can they translate that into grade success?

Am told there was some pretty average behaviour during the 3rd grade GF with players and spectators coming together. GF day will always bring out the best and worst of some clubs.

Also two big upsets in the JJC grand finals - Hornsby and St Pat's both beating their undefeated opponent 14-12 at Merrylands. Well done!
Just a reminder that these opinions are solely mine as per my signature

A lot of disappointment from a Briars perspective - on and off the field. Unfortunately, we lost our composure - one thing to note, though, is players not on the field involved themselves in that fracas as well and it was right in front of where UNSW perched themselves for the day. This was not the only run-in they were a party to, from what I could see from the commentary position.

Our 4th Grade is predominantly an Old Boys team and came up against a much younger Forest - you can argue about the fairness of having to beat a team 4 times to win a premiership v them beating you once but that is the situation, we lost the Grand Final and they are premiers. Same happened later in the afternoon.

Pats currently have 3 minor premierships and 2 premierships on the trot from Barbour through to Robertson. That's incredible but not surprising - they just need it to begin translating into their senior grades.

Watching back the 1st Grade RC - once again the UNSW 7 is the player who draws out a questionable send off. We, as someone so eloquently put it in this thread, s*** the bed after he baited the referee into sending one of our players off. I fear Petersham have had the same thing happen to them and in the Grand Final. I'm not a fan of those antics, personally, but also if you don't lash out at him, he can't be effective and put the referee in that situation.

Saturday has not changed my opinion re: UNSW going up over Petersham despite the CC rankings. Uni are the top Cowboy team in D2, 1st Grade and 3rd Grade Premiers and had the depth to get through 4 Grades on GF day. Petersham have had a great season but are a "top" heavy club in terms of standings, whereas Uni have had success in just about every grade this year.

With the ability to field a heap of fresh reserves, a luxury Uni didn't have, Shammies still fell short, albeit with some chicanery involved. I also think another year in D2 will aid Petersham in terms of depth across their lower grades, rather than having to come up depleted already (I also would much rather play them or head to Camperdown than trek out to Uni).
 

Pfitzy

Phil Waugh (73)
Watching back the 1st Grade RC - once again the UNSW 7 is the player who draws out a questionable send off. We, as someone so eloquently put it in this thread, s*** the bed after he baited the referee into sending one of our players off. I fear Petersham have had the same thing happen to them and in the Grand Final. I'm not a fan of those antics, personally, but also if you don't lash out at him, he can't be effective and put the referee in that situation.

Saw the incident. Not sure he even made contact but yeah pretty stupid to let the little bloke into your headspace through a quite benign shove and bitch at the referee.

Smile, give them a thumbs up, and nail them at the bottom of the next ruck ;)
 

CrashBandicoot2

Herbert Moran (7)
Embarrassing and really poor form from UNSW to try and hide the #5 who jumped the fence and got involved in the fight. UNSW needed to lose a player on the ground due to that. The player should have been evicted from the ground instead of being involved in celebrations.
Not sure UNSW would let other clubs get away with something like that. Hopefully a judiciary appearance awaits.
 

footy_footy

Fred Wood (13)
Embarrassing and really poor form from UNSW to try and hide the #5 who jumped the fence and got involved in the fight. UNSW needed to lose a player on the ground due to that. The player should have been evicted from the ground instead of being involved in celebrations.
Not sure UNSW would let other clubs get away with something like that. Hopefully a judiciary appearance awaits.
Shades of Cam Murray in origin last year (although far less dramatic and a lot slower). A comedy of errors from all involved but agreed the player who had been subbed joining the melee is poor form and a UNSW player should've joined the Briars #8 in the bin.
 

Cauliflower Brain

Frank Row (1)
Embarrassing and really poor form from UNSW to try and hide the #5 who jumped the fence and got involved in the fight. UNSW needed to lose a player on the ground due to that. The player should have been evicted from the ground instead of being involved in celebrations.
Not sure UNSW would let other clubs get away with something like that. Hopefully a judiciary appearance awaits.
Agreed that the UNSW #5 shouldn't have gotten involved.
But are we somehow trying to say that a player blind side shoulder charging an unsuspecting player in the back after the play is over, continuing it on the ground and someone running in to essentially lay on top of some bodies are the same level of culpability? You can barely even call the standing around and mound of bodies a "fight" after the initial cowardly hit everyone was just doing the usual push and shove.

Edit to add: Only just watched the aftermath discussion and the Briar's player getting a yellow got off obscenely lucky, I assumed we were talking about a red card for all involved
 

Odyssey_Park the 2nd

Darby Loudon (17)
Agreed that the UNSW #5 shouldn't have gotten involved.
But are we somehow trying to say that a player blind side shoulder charging an unsuspecting player in the back after the play is over, continuing it on the ground and someone running in to essentially lay on top of some bodies are the same level of culpability? You can barely even call the standing around and mound of bodies a "fight" after the initial cowardly hit everyone was just doing the usual push and shove.

Edit to add: Only just watched the aftermath discussion and the Briar's player getting a yellow got off obscenely lucky, I assumed we were talking about a red card for all involved
You are right, Briars player should be charged and suspended for a large number of weeks. That was a dangerous hit after the play had stopped that the guy didn’t see coming. However a player getting involved from the bench no matter how minor is a huge no no and you see the reaction from the UnSW support crew which inflamed the situation after the initial incident.
Fights on the field are going to happen but as soon as you allow people running in things break down real quickly.
 
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