Sydney Subbies 2022

[Pfitzy]

Raptors only had 10 players at the ground at second grade kickoff. We offered them an extra 10 minutes to see what would happenZ unfortunately things didn’t change.
Some extra turned up in time for first grade, but I think they got to a max of 13. We played the first half and then called it at halftime.
Fair play to George and the Raptors guys who turned up and had a crack. Unfortunately it wasn’t to be

Just following up on this - back at home against Redfield, Raptors had 26 players. So I guess the possibility exists that we're not about to consign them to the scrapheap just yet.

And the scheduling of Rugby League Test Matches might just be coincidentally tied to attendance of players from proud Island nations.

 

[Eastcoast]

Div 1 Wrap Up
Horrible day out at Lapstone - We got a small lead with the wind, but couldnt hold out their big boys in the second half running against a gale. A few penalties later and a tight loss. The ground was a mess - but most grounds were that way this week. Blueys are always a good host and tough opposition.
St Pats added misery onto Drummoyne. They are a shell of there former selves.

Any games played in the Lower divs?

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

What's going on with the Dirty Reds this season? Missing numbers or just a couple of key positions?

Can't think they will slump for too long.

Rae Rae

 

[The Wombat]

What's going on with the Dirty Reds this season? Missing numbers or just a couple of key positions?

Can't think they will slump for too long.

Rae Rae

Seems like they’ve lost a few of their key players after their grand final appearances. Former captain Shaun Dixon to West Harbour is one example. They‘ve got talent throughout the grades, I expect there’s some morale issues now with the mounting losses.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

He might come back soon the way West Harbour are going. Can't be too much fun.

That's fair after a GF win. Good time for some to hang them up. Fully expect them to be back up the top few within the next couple of seasons.

Rae Rae

 

[Pfitzy]

Any games played in the Lower divs?

DIV FOUR:
Mac Uni got shifted to Merrylands and the students came away 26-12 with the BP. Seconds was Merrylands 31-3
Renegades 36-5 win and a 22-24 loss against 20 brave souls from HAC.
Harbour ground out a 12-10 win over Epping on the plastic at Easts, and a solid 32-7 from the Eaysters in reserves.
Raptors at home - one one of the few grounds that didn't seem to have standing water - lost both to Redfield 20-7 & 36-7
Savers got the 28-zip over Berries in both grades due to forfeit.
Stags v Saints postponed.

DIV FIVE:
Oatley travelled to JS White at Kings, and came away 20-12
Wakehurst 29-5 over Dukes, continuing their stay in the top 4 tho almost everyone else in the top 6 has a game (or 2) in hand.
All others postponsed.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

John Sinisa will be leaving the club soon as he wants to coach shite shield. After that, I can’t see any answer but to appoint a development coach like Phil Lawrence. It is widely reknown that the club is not able to attract talent anymore. Therefore, they need to build from the ground up with the resources they have and I suspect Phil is the best man for the role. A strong fearless leader who will make the cutthroat calls the club needs.

Oh well. It's a good thing they have recognised current issues. There are many a former D1 Subbies club that haven't and now struggle to exist.

Rae Rae

 

[Pfitzy]

Clubs are looking for grounds for this weekend... jeez it could get ordinary if midweekers are required or the dreaded and rarely seen Saturday-Sunday catch up.

Subbies Womens 7s this weekend will depend on when the rain stops and what Council thinks of the pitch I guess.

 

[Waterloo_Ned]

Clubs are looking for grounds for this weekend... jeez it could get ordinary if midweekers are required or the dreaded and rarely seen Saturday-Sunday catch up.

Subbies Womens 7s this weekend will depend on when the rain stops and what Council thinks of the pitch I guess.

Rohan has been calling everyone trying to do this for us. We already have a make up game against Lindfield on the only other WW weekend, so not playing this week is a disaster for Quinns. We have 4 possible grounds, but all seem to be low chance of being available. Waterloo is hardly even a 1% chance this week. To make matters worse, trying to get Barker over to replay this game at Waterloo for a Night Game is logistically hard for them, so the Saturday/Sunday double do is all we have up our sleeve if Mother Nature.

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

John Sinisa will be leaving the club soon as he wants to coach shite shield. After that, I can’t see any answer but to appoint a development coach like Phil Lawrence. It is widely reknown that the club is not able to attract talent anymore. Therefore, they need to build from the ground up with the resources they have and I suspect Phil is the best man for the role. A strong fearless leader who will make the cutthroat calls the club needs.

Would love to hear more about this Phil Lawrence character. Where’s he come from? Is he up to the challenge of the cauldron that is Dirty Reds Rugby?

 

[qwerty123]

Would love to hear more about this Phil Lawrence character. Where’s he come from? Is he up to the challenge of the cauldron that is Dirty Reds Rugby?

Lol

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Would love to hear more about this Phil Lawrence character. Where’s he come from? Is he up to the challenge of the cauldron that is Dirty Reds Rugby?

Are you Phil Lawrence?

Rae Rae

 

[Eastcoast]

Would love to hear more about this Phil Lawrence character. Where’s he come from? Is he up to the challenge of the cauldron that is Dirty Reds Rugby?

Who is this person? Their 2's coach? Wont matter as our 2's are as good as our 1's. Had no competition in 2's for the last few years in Div 2 and thought we might get a few tight games this year but only had Pats knock off us in a tight one

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

Are you Phil Lawrence?

Rae Rae

Can confirm that I am not Phil Lawrence, but I am interested to know more about him. Having trawled through Drummoyne’s social media, he isn’t announced as part of their coaching team from earlier in the year, but looks like he coaches their 3rd grade. Would seem like a big jump…

 

[C.Dark]

The dark constables tips from the station

redfield v st Ives
Yawn, the decaf boys from dural by plenty
Redfield win 28-5

oysters v Mac uni
Should be the perfect contrast here between a drilled team and a team that can score from scraps and run away with the biscuits
Uni had a great win against us last week and oysters ground one out on the plastic against the lambs so both teams full of confidence here, looking like one to watch for sure
Oysters win 17-12

savers v hac
Gillette shavers by plenty here, Hawkesbury to have half of their regular 20 stuck on the other side of the bridge looking after more important things.
Manly win 40-0

Chatswood v Merrylands
my blokes coming off a tough one against uni looking to use this game as a rev up into the next, chatswood savouring the week off last week saving us all from watching 80 minutes worth of a coach sparkies northern taints game. Men of merry to lay it on them
Merrylands win 21-5

Canterbury v epping
The bananas off a loss to the top of the table last week and the berries struggling to get regular games up, the epping flans to make fruit salad out of the raspberry’s at home
Epping win 28-5

renegades v raptors
The battle of the west, it’ll be like watching mum and dad fight (go to your rooms and turn the radio on kids). Two teams that’ll look to win this with physicality, state versus state, mate versus mate and let me tell you I’m excited
My moneys on blitzys men to swing their big hogs about and take away the chocolates ramping them towards a great run home over the next few rounds
Renegades win 19-15

 

[Pfitzy]

Rohan has been calling everyone trying to do this for us. We already have a make up game against Lindfield on the only other WW weekend, so not playing this week is a disaster for Quinns. We have 4 possible grounds, but all seem to be low chance of being available. Waterloo is hardly even a 1% chance this week. To make matters worse, trying to get Barker over to replay this game at Waterloo for a Night Game is logistically hard for them, so the Saturday/Sunday double do is all we have up our sleeve if Mother Nature.

At least we managed to get 1st Grade sorted out. After a full day of sun today and another few hours by the time kickoff happens, Kellyville Park 5 should be a dream track to play on bar a couple of rough spots. Better than the wicket area at Waterloo right now, at least

 

[Pfitzy]

I'll have a crack at Fourth Div Round 10:

Redfield v Saints - postponed. But you'd back Redfield any day, any week.
Chatswood v Merrylands - now moved to Holroyd. After last week the Wolves will be fired up. I think they will take it.
Savers v HAC - Savers have depth to run 3 Grades right now (Halligan v Covies) and should win this comfortably. Wasn't even sure HAC would make it given the floods.
Renegades v Raptors - gotta back the boys. Solid win and minimal team changes + dry track. It'll be a battle.
Canterbury v Epping - Rams are in third right now, a point back from Savers. Big win coming up.
Harbour v Mac Uni - moved to Woollahra #3 and should be match of the round I reckon - Fijian flair versus high structure and fitness. Oysters to remain undefeated.

 

[Pfitzy]

Looking toward finals for Div 4:

McLean Cup
1 Oysters (43) look likely to finish 1st, undefeated, with a gap to the chasing pack. They're maybe not quite as sharp as last year so could be upset in the finals, but they're unlikely to drop a game from here, playing mostly bottom teams
The run home: Mac Uni (H), HAC (A), Saints (H), Chatswood (A), Canterbury (A)

2 Savers (36) not the easiest finish to the year, with a couple of games out west, and a couple of high-ranking opponents at Keirle Park. They will have learned from the game against Merrylands and while they took care of Redfield easily on neutral turf in Round 2, Redfield will be looking to improve on that.
The run home: HAC (H), Raptors (A), Merrylands (H), Redfield (H), Renegades (A)

3 Epping (35) the close loss to Oysters will have shown them where they are in the comp, and the temptation might be there to write off the loss to Savers as a bad day. They have a few games against lower-ranked opponents followed by a last-round stoush at Holroyd. They'll be hoping Savers stumble so they can grab 2nd spot, but back themselves from anywhere.
The run home: Canterbury (A), Chatswood (H), HAC (A), Renegades (H), Merrylands (A)

4 Merrylands (30) starting this weekend, the Wolves will look to drive toward 2nd spot. They'll see the Savers game at Keirle as a turning point that sees them reach for 2nd or settle for minor placings with a tough last-round fight against Epping.
The run home: Chatswood (H), Canterbury (H), Savers (A), Raptors (H), Epping (H)

5 Redfield (26) they will be confident they have the game for finals, with several close wins this year, and a draw with Epping as well as taking a halftime lead over Oysters. Can't write them off but they might come undone against size on a heavy track. The lower ranked opponents should see them safely into a minor place.
The run home: Saints (H), Mac Uni (A), Canterbury (H), Savers (A), HAC (H).

6 Mac Uni (25) a game in hand against Renegades means they might actually see themselves in equal 4th at this point. However they can probably look at inconsistency as their catch cry - a loss to Raptors and a win against Merrylands doesn't sound like they've delivering every week. A few tough games in their lead in to the finals. Line ball.
The run home: Harbour (A), Redfield (H), Raptors (H), Renegades (H-WW), Canterbury (A), Chatswood (H)

This is where the major break in the table occurs - and it'll take an effort to jump up from bottom 6.

7 Raptors (19) hard to tell what effect dropping their 2nd grade will have at this point. Certainly they've had highlights during the year, but Savers-Uni-Wolves could blunt their approach to the finals.
The run home: Renegades (A), Savers (H), Mac Uni (A), Merrylands (A), Saints (H).

8 Chatswood (17) this is one of the toughest roads home IMHO, and I don't think Chatswood's young guns will quite have the grunt to get there. They'll be satisified with 2 Grades and some good wins during the year, and look to build for next year.
The run home: Merrylands (A), Epping (A), Renegades (A), Saints (H-WW), Harbour (H), Mac Uni (A)

9 Saints (12) slow start to the year, perhaps with a few depth issues, and a couple of horror weeks back to back with Epping and Savers wouldn't do much for morale. The other issue is going to be finding time to play 2 washed out games before the end of the year; the first from Round 9 against Chatswood will be pushed to July 30 I supose, and would be one they could target. Tomorrow's game v Redfield is perhaps a forgone conclusion.
The run home: ?Redfield (A-WW)?, Renegades (H), Harbour (A), Chatswood (A-WW), HAC (H), Raptors (A)

10 Renegades (11) an absolute mountain to climb if we want to make finals. Inconsistent selection early in the year (with key absences) and a couple of tough weeks to start set us off on the wrong foot, but we pushed Redfield and never really looked outclassed until you saw the scoreboard. Perhaps an easier run home than most, playing a few against teams ranked just above us before the killer, make-or-break finish.
The run home: Raptors (H), Saints (A), Chatswood (H), Mac Uni (A-WW), Epping (A), Savers (H)

11 HAC (7) they've been playing with 1.5 teams most of the year. As a result they've had the one win against Saints and some lopsided results. Will likely stay roughly in place, looking at a win against Saints as a bit of a victory at this point.
The run home: Savers (A), Harbour (H), Epping (H), Saints (A), Redfield (A)

12 Canterbury (6) - again, low numbers have meant their 2nd Grade have somewhat prospered while First Grade slumped. A season with controversy, they'll be considering the future of multiple grades after having 3 not so long ago
The run home: Epping (H), Merrylands (A), Redfield (A), Mac Uni (H), Harbour (A)

Ladder for finals
1 Sydney Harbour
2 Epping
3 Manly Savers
4 Redfield Old Boys
5 Merrylands
6 Macquarie Uni
7 Renegades - we might get there on for/against but need to win every game handily.
8 Western Raptors
9 Chatswood
10 Northern Saints
11 Hawkesbury Ag College
12 Canterbury

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

Some clubs and players still not learning from the UNsW/Canterbury Kerry flex of earlier this year.
Not many games played today, but surely, surely, clubs can’t be that silly. A loss of points now could end a certain clubs finals chance.
Changing the players name didn’t work the first time, it’s not going to work again.
Clubs not doing their due diligence on players joining at this time of year are going to come unstuck.
I won’t blow the whistle, but I should.

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

Can anyone clear up Eppings day? Their socials say they won three grades, but I can’t find the third grade game vs Harlequins in Halligans, and their first grade didn’t have a try scorer yet they won 28-0.