WoodyWoodsman
Sydney Middleton (9)
Why is Prodigy so filthy? Surely the Rams got an invite seeing as though Epping is listed as winning the Kentwell in 1945…. If that was the prerequisite for attendance.
Sydney Subbies 2022
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WoodyWoodsman
Sydney Middleton (9)
St Leo’s is now Beecroft Seniors.NSW Suburban Rugby Union : Kentwell Cup Premiers
rugbyresults.fusesport.com
It is interesting to look at that list, and understand that of the 31 Kentwell winners:
8 are in First Division this year (Blue Mountains and Forest being the 2 without a Kentwell)
2 are in Second Division (Newport and UNSW)
2 are basically Third Division (Briars and Old Iggies)
3 are Fourth Div (Savers, St Ives, and Epping - tho you could make a case for them being closer to Third Div)
2 are in Sixth Div (Lane Cove effectively, and Balmain)
14 don't exist in effect, tho they may have evolved - someone with a better appreciation of the history might know more:
Bondi Life Savers
Bronte
Concord West
Coogee
Dundas Valley
Matraville
Moore Park
Newington Old Boys
North Steyne
NSW Fire Brigades
Roseville
Royal Aus Artillery
St Leo's
Western Suburbs
DaSchmooze
Jim Clark (26)
We now cross live to Hudson Park where the celebrations have already started for St Pat's upon hearing the news they are now the Top End of town.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
At least one person was there from Epping.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Can confirm. Holding a similarly sized lunch at TG on Kentwell Cup Day would have cost Subbies much, MUCH more.
And yet, of all the clubs in Subbies who were invited, only half a dozen showed. Life Members were well represented along with a few people from NSW Rugby, and even a sponsor or two.
Free entry to the ground, then free beer and food from 2PM, as well as covered seats to watch the back half of Second Grade and a fairly intense First Grade game. A chance to chat to Paul Doorn and a few other people in the Halls of Power
What's not to like?
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Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'd also like to state that the claim made about about "backhanders" from insurance payments is unmitigated rubbish.
The Subbies Board is made up of active members of Clubs across all divisions, and we're keenly aware as Club people that insurance costs have risen and are a major issue for running community sport.
FACT: Subbies has been working with NSW Rugby and other unions to seek a better deal than the one that is currently in place, and particular individuals are covering a lot of ground to try and make this happen. Not all the factors in the insurance discussion are within the control of the Unions e.g. any insurer will look at the portfolio cost and price it accordingly.
Due to some large claims in rugby the last few years, for people who were seriously injured (wheelchair-for-life level injuries), there isn't a lot of room to price risk out of the premiums, but discussions are ongoing.
The Subbies Board is made up of active members of Clubs across all divisions, and we're keenly aware as Club people that insurance costs have risen and are a major issue for running community sport.
FACT: Subbies has been working with NSW Rugby and other unions to seek a better deal than the one that is currently in place, and particular individuals are covering a lot of ground to try and make this happen. Not all the factors in the insurance discussion are within the control of the Unions e.g. any insurer will look at the portfolio cost and price it accordingly.
Due to some large claims in rugby the last few years, for people who were seriously injured (wheelchair-for-life level injuries), there isn't a lot of room to price risk out of the premiums, but discussions are ongoing.
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Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Season 2022 is done. It had some rough edges, but at least it was a full season.
To preface what I'm about to say: everyone here pretty much knows who I am, or has at least joined the dots by now. I am more active on this forum than other Board members, because ultimately I enjoy this kind of engagement - just lurking here gathering rumours would not be my style. I've made missteps in my comments on the Subbies threads which is why I am fairly measued in my responses.
To the point: Communication is key.
A couple of accounts on here spray rumours or misinformation around, and suddenly it is fact in the minds of the crowd. A lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth gets out of bed, and Subbies is no different.
"Subbies" is not some opaque, all-powerful dictatorship, neither is it omnipotent. Getting everything right is tough even in a good year (and the last few years have been less than good). When decisions are made it is after all attempts at good communication.
Sometimes, mistakes happen or things don't turn out 100% well for everyone involved. That is true whether you're the Executive, the Board, a Club Committee, the Referees, Coaches, volunteers, or a player.
My suggestion is that if you hear something you think sounds outrageous, then by all means call your Club Committee / Executive and ask them.
If you're on the Committee of your club, you know that the lines of communication are open to Subbies staff and should feel free to use them.
If you're NOT involved in a club, and want to talk absolute rubbish about Subbies, I recommend thinking on a sign I saw at another sport: "Before you complain, have you volunteered yet?"
We're all trying to enjoy the great game, and should all be trying to help it grow. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, provided it is directed with purpose.
Enjoy the off-season.
To preface what I'm about to say: everyone here pretty much knows who I am, or has at least joined the dots by now. I am more active on this forum than other Board members, because ultimately I enjoy this kind of engagement - just lurking here gathering rumours would not be my style. I've made missteps in my comments on the Subbies threads
which is why I am fairly measued in my responses.To the point: Communication is key.
A couple of accounts on here spray rumours or misinformation around, and suddenly it is fact in the minds of the crowd. A lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth gets out of bed, and Subbies is no different.
"Subbies" is not some opaque, all-powerful dictatorship, neither is it omnipotent. Getting everything right is tough even in a good year (and the last few years have been less than good). When decisions are made it is after all attempts at good communication.
Sometimes, mistakes happen or things don't turn out 100% well for everyone involved. That is true whether you're the Executive, the Board, a Club Committee, the Referees, Coaches, volunteers, or a player.
My suggestion is that if you hear something you think sounds outrageous, then by all means call your Club Committee / Executive and ask them.
If you're on the Committee of your club, you know that the lines of communication are open to Subbies staff and should feel free to use them.
If you're NOT involved in a club, and want to talk absolute rubbish about Subbies, I recommend thinking on a sign I saw at another sport: "Before you complain, have you volunteered yet?"
We're all trying to enjoy the great game, and should all be trying to help it grow. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, provided it is directed with purpose.
Enjoy the off-season.
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DaSchmooze
Jim Clark (26)
Thanks Pfitzy. Your commentary is always appreciated and helps all former players stay connected to the comp.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Speaking of staying connected: if you're no longer able to get to games, get in contact with your club to see if there are any spare voucher codes for nswrugby.tv
Watch as many games as you can! The more eyes on the streaming service, the better the deal is for Subbies clubs ongoing.
WoodyWoodsman
Sydney Middleton (9)
Must have been the guy invited as the Division 2 rep…..
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
Only just finished drowning my sorrows - Huge game for the boys but just couldnt keep up in the 2nd half. Colleagues were much better than a few weeks before.
Looking forward to 2023 already.
Any Sill Sunday bust ups from around the grounds? Apart from people not getting invited
Looking forward to 2023 already.
Any Sill Sunday bust ups from around the grounds? Apart from people not getting invited
KentwellCup>ShuteShield
Ted Thorn (20)
What was everyones favourite finals game of div 1? my predictions did really go accordingly.
Waterloo_Ned
Herbert Moran (7)
1. S.Hayes (UNSW)
2. S.Kenna (Valley)
3. R. Hayes (Newport)
4. M.Cannell (Lindfield)
5. L.Meville (Harlequins)
6.R.Jacobson (Valley)
7.B.Scott (Newport)
8.G.Viiga (Valley)
9. S.Allen (Newport)
10. D.Tully (Newport)
11. S. Allen (Newport)
12. J.Fleetwood (Valley)
13.B.Taylor (UNSW)
14. R.Lipowicz (Valley)
15. S.Groom (Newport)
16.A.Kwok (Harlequins)
17.M.Gibbs (Harlequins)
18.J.Thomson (Harlequins)
19.M.Brinnand (Hills)
20.J.Ferguson (Hills)
21.W.Crawford (Barker)
22. T.Gibbeson (Beecroft)
2. S.Kenna (Valley)
3. R. Hayes (Newport)
4. M.Cannell (Lindfield)
5. L.Meville (Harlequins)
6.R.Jacobson (Valley)
7.B.Scott (Newport)
8.G.Viiga (Valley)
9. S.Allen (Newport)
10. D.Tully (Newport)
11. S. Allen (Newport)
12. J.Fleetwood (Valley)
13.B.Taylor (UNSW)
14. R.Lipowicz (Valley)
15. S.Groom (Newport)
16.A.Kwok (Harlequins)
17.M.Gibbs (Harlequins)
18.J.Thomson (Harlequins)
19.M.Brinnand (Hills)
20.J.Ferguson (Hills)
21.W.Crawford (Barker)
22. T.Gibbeson (Beecroft)
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
Div 1
Very tough to leave out a few of the HH boys who could easily have made it
1. Elliot Moule
2. Oliver Stump
3. Carwyn Francis
4. Pat Danahy
5. Harrison Orr
6. Aidan Brown
7. Adrian Musico
8. Johnathan Kawau
9. Sam White
10. Dan Kelly
11. Osea Namari
12. Steve Leuta
13. Matt Psaltis
14. Sitiveni Logaivau
15. Lachy Camroux
Very tough to leave out a few of the HH boys who could easily have made it
1. Elliot Moule
2. Oliver Stump
3. Carwyn Francis
4. Pat Danahy
5. Harrison Orr
6. Aidan Brown
7. Adrian Musico
8. Johnathan Kawau
9. Sam White
10. Dan Kelly
11. Osea Namari
12. Steve Leuta
13. Matt Psaltis
14. Sitiveni Logaivau
15. Lachy Camroux
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Didn't he play blindside all year?
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
Has great versatility - Can play anywhere from 4-8. Couldnt leave out Brown - He is an absolute lunatic in defense.
Doritos Day
Johnnie Wallace (23)
No St Pats backs?
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
A very strong backline that was not used. Cant select them for the Team of the Year
This is a pisstake right?