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Larry Dwyer (12)
When did the Reds acquire ownership of Suncorp?
Sydney Football Stadium vs ANZ/ Olympic/ Telstra/ Homebush
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Syd Malcolm (24)
Has the SCG already made that kind of decision public or is that assumed? This query is due to my lack of knowledge of where ANZ stadium gets the money to host an event and how it actually goes about it.
ANZ pays $4.5 million per year for the naming rights sponsorship. Some of that money is then used to attract sporting events to the stadium.
That is why teams like the Waratahs, Swans, and several NRL teams play some or all of their home games there.
That is why teams like the Waratahs, Swans, and several NRL teams play some or all of their home games there.
I don't think either of the rugby codes will be invited to within 100 metres of the SCG once it's refurbished - if that development isn't for the benfit of AFL I'd be highly surprised. Attendances at cricket certainly don't support spending that much money
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Forgotten your medication again BarBar?
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Regarding the comment in the OP about the surface: This is something I have been interested in after watching quite a few games there of recent years. Is it that it doesn't drain well, grass is purposefully left long, suffering from overuse in other codes (and possibly the drop in pitch in the centre now) that causes this? It always seems to be a "slow" sort of field. Speedsters seem to look slower when watching it and it always seems sodden with players running around knee deep in grass (exaggeration mode on 
). Other playing surfaces around the country have the appearance of a nice flat surface, but the ANZ surface very rarely looks like that these days - it sort of looks like it is not uneven as such, but more like it is uniformly clumpy (I can't find the words sorry). I there a really high ground water table out at homebush?
). Other playing surfaces around the country have the appearance of a nice flat surface, but the ANZ surface very rarely looks like that these days - it sort of looks like it is not uneven as such, but more like it is uniformly clumpy (I can't find the words sorry). I there a really high ground water table out at homebush?
The main reason behind the redevelopment of several stands is that they are suffering from concrete cancer and need to be replaced.
The attendance at the SCG test, ODIs and Big Bash games would rival the Swans SCG home games. When you consider how much more tickets cost to the SCG test versus an AFL game, the gate takings are probably higher at the cricket.
Regardless of that, the SCG is one of the most iconic cricket grounds in the world and I guarantee that the interests of cricket are a priority over AFL or any other sports for the administrators, the Sydney Cricket Ground Trust.
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Frank Nicholson (4)
Some comments....
The decision to take some games to ANZ was made way back in 2005 (maybe 2006?) when the Tahs were getting very good crowd numbers to the SFS. Eg in those days, the Reds match would have sold out, same with the Crusaders and possibly the Blues. No one went to the SA games (and no one will).
The point about going to ANZ was made about money, but also to get the SFS to do some extra work to boost the capacity of the SFS, and a better deal at the SFS. When the deal with ANZ expires, I'd be surprised if the Tahs have another deal to play out there. As Sydney FC have learnt, you can't please everyone, by going out West.
For me personally (now living in the Inner West), it is easier to get to than the SFS, but I'd much prefer to head to the SFS, just because I'm going to head into town after a match anyway, so I may as well put myself in the area.
I think Sydney would be better served having another team based in the West of Sydney, but that isn't going to happen under Super Rugby.
As to comments about playing at the SCG. The operator of the SFS is the same as the SCG. But I can't see why any rugby code would want to play games there any more. You'd be a long way away from the action, and you've got a pretty good stadium next door from a sporting perspective.
My favourite thing about ANZ is getting a curry from that place in Berry!
The decision to take some games to ANZ was made way back in 2005 (maybe 2006?) when the Tahs were getting very good crowd numbers to the SFS. Eg in those days, the Reds match would have sold out, same with the Crusaders and possibly the Blues. No one went to the SA games (and no one will).
The point about going to ANZ was made about money, but also to get the SFS to do some extra work to boost the capacity of the SFS, and a better deal at the SFS. When the deal with ANZ expires, I'd be surprised if the Tahs have another deal to play out there. As Sydney FC have learnt, you can't please everyone, by going out West.
For me personally (now living in the Inner West), it is easier to get to than the SFS, but I'd much prefer to head to the SFS, just because I'm going to head into town after a match anyway, so I may as well put myself in the area.
I think Sydney would be better served having another team based in the West of Sydney, but that isn't going to happen under Super Rugby.
As to comments about playing at the SCG. The operator of the SFS is the same as the SCG. But I can't see why any rugby code would want to play games there any more. You'd be a long way away from the action, and you've got a pretty good stadium next door from a sporting perspective.
My favourite thing about ANZ is getting a curry from that place in Berry!
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it's more then just that, it's the 9'000 stadium members as well which provide a very sizeable income, similar to Suncorp a large number f those would be corporate/high yield packages
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Greg Davis (50)
The scg is only gonna be about 5000 more capacity than the sfs, my understanding is the sfs is lobbying for refurbishment anyway and it will probably come after the Scg is finished (owned by same trust) I don't know why you would ever move a rectangular field game to an oval owned and operated by the same people.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
History is that Reds called Tahs renters. Serious. What sort of criticism is renters anyway?
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Bill McLean (32)
Like many, I would rather go out to the SFS to watch the Tahs than Homebush. But the Tahs are committed to playing out there for the next couple years at least and if it helps shore up the bottom line, so be it.
At least in 2012, they didn't send, arguably, the best two games of the home schedule (Reds and Crusaders) out to Homebush. It will be disappointing if the Tahs don't get 30K plus for the Crusaders game on April 29. If they don't, then who can blame them for going out to Homebush for some games if it contributes more to the coffers.
The reality is that rugby isn't as popular in Australia as in, say, South Africa and New Zealand. The closest any rugby matches get to sellout are the Bledisloe Tests.
At least in 2012, they didn't send, arguably, the best two games of the home schedule (Reds and Crusaders) out to Homebush. It will be disappointing if the Tahs don't get 30K plus for the Crusaders game on April 29. If they don't, then who can blame them for going out to Homebush for some games if it contributes more to the coffers.
The reality is that rugby isn't as popular in Australia as in, say, South Africa and New Zealand. The closest any rugby matches get to sellout are the Bledisloe Tests.
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John Thornett (49)
My thoughts having gone on the fields after games: At ground level the ANZ surface is better than the SFS. ANZ has a much finer grass, SFS is a tougher grass but scruffier looking. I think the ANZ turf gets churned up more so they are replacing it more often, hence the patch work look. But when you are on it you don't notice it.
Which grass is faster? After a few beers post game I'm fricken fast regardless of the surface. you should have seen my drop goal from halfway on Saturday...
Homebush use to be a chemical dump... So that may have an effect.
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spooony
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It is not criticism. Regardless the Stadium or who owns it because anything that he can fit into and watch rugby a supporter will go to. So why do they have problems filling a stadium when your national team seem to fill it with ease when they are playing? Do they sell too many season tickets, bad weather or is the Stadium located in the middle of nowhere or outside a city?
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Chilla Wilson (44)
And that is because there are so many expat kiwi's that it may as well be a home game for them.
Yes, well that's good to hear - I hope your right.
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But I see many people having a fit when Australia play SA in Perth. Yes I know a lot of our people imigrated to Oz and made their home around there it still does not mean they outnumber the Australians. Rugby have to compete with other codes but your national team playing rugby fill a stadium. Now where is that same supporters when your top teams are goofing it out? Is there too much hate/rivalry between each district/province/state or whatever? When The Bulls and Stormers played in Soweto they manage to fill the Stadium easily.
One thing I have noticed when I watch a game on tv that gets played in Oz that it is always dark when they play. You will see always daylight when we are playing here then it will get a bit darker later on because 17:00 is our favorite slot. What time do the matches kick off there that you guys play rugby in the dark all the time?
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Chilla Wilson (44)
OK. Just to clarify the Kiwi comment - Kiwi's will go and watch rugby, and the expats form a major part of the rugby community here, but they will only go and watch if kiwi's are involved. So you will generally (Yes I am generalising) see larger crowds for say the Tahs v Saders then the Tahs v Reds.
Aussies will go and watch other aussies represent their country be it Rugby, tiddlewinks, darts, or poker. We are a very patrotic bunch. When we drop to the next level though there are some issues. Rugby just doesn't have the following here that it has in NZ or SA. Yes there are some insane people such as myself who have their season tickets to their local team and go to as many games as we can, but there is less of us then there are of the league supporters. And when you are a family, and need to pick and choose you discretianary spending, the options for tests usually out weighs the options for the Super Rugby. You will find NRL fans will go and watch the Wallabies play but not the Reds/Tahs, and Also vice versa where Rugby fans will go watch the Kangaroos, or State of Origin, but not the Broncos or Eels. And that is before we get to Sooccer or AFL.
With regards to time - the only game played during daylight hours here are the Sunday games - Kick off about 15:30pm local time. What the broadcasat schedule here is NZ (starting 16:30pm qld time currently), Eastern states 18:30 or 19:30 pm Qld time, Perth 21:30 pm Qld time, SA early hours of the morning. I am guessing that it is a scheduleing thing to fit in accross 5 time zone. I could be an hour or two out with the times too, and daylight saving sucks.
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